I get Ecolog posts in digest form, so usually when I am tempted to 
comment it is already a day late, and so I don't.  But this time I'll 
make an exception in defense of Henry Gleason (and also in defense of 
Clements) though probably not in time to forestall Dr. Hamilton's 
"trashing" of Gleason to his class.

It is very much worthwhile to consider not only the state of ecology 
back in 1916 and in the 1930s, but also to consider the backgrounds of 
both Clements and Gleason.  I  would argue that based on their 
experience both men would have no choice to come up with their 
respective interpretations of succession and that if you flipflopped 
their experience, both men would have developed the others' theories.

Clements primarily worked mostly in temperate and montane environments 
in the USA (Neb, Min, Col, Calif, Ariz).  Gleason began his research in 
Ill, following up on work by Cowles, and continued in Michigan and at 
the NY Botanical Garden.  Most importantly for this post, Gleason spent 
time putting together a botanical survey for Puerto Rico and worked in 
the Asian tropics.  He had already begun to question the association 
model of Clements by 1927, but his tropical trips resulted in a more 
complete criticism.  From PR, Gleason published on plant ecology and 
noted that multiple transects or plots would seldom result in similar 
species compositions. (Gleason, H.A. and M.T. Cook, Plant ecology of 
Porto Rico. Scientific Survey of Porto Rico and the Virgin Islands, 
1927. 7(1-2): p. 1-173.)  Granted, a series of plots or transects may 
only be descriptive, but PR at the time that Gleason was here was 
already a highly fragmented habitat, severely affected by land use 
history.  The Spanish had been here for >400 years.  Agriculture was 
already well on its way to deforesting 96% of the island (a level 
reached within 25 yr of Gleason's visit) but some marginal lands and 
former crown lands were already developing secondary forests.  We have 
aerial photos of the island from 1936 that show clear patchworks of 
forest fragments of various ages witihin an agricultural matrix.  
Gleason was a bright fellow, was well trained by Cowles and in 
Clementsian succession before arriving in PR, and would have recognized 
the value of sampling in what we would now recognize as a 
chronosequence.  I would argue that chronosequence sampling is in fact 
experimental, but that is probably another topic for Ecolog.  Finally, I 
think if you read more of Gleason's work, you'll find that he is cut 
more from a modeler's mold. 

If you blindfold yourself and run through a mature forest in Michigan, 
it's pretty sure that you'll run into a majority of beeches and maples, 
or oaks and hickories, etc.  If you do the same in mature forests in 
Puerto Rico, you won't run into a majority of anything, except trees, 
and our flora is "depauperate" compared to continental tropical tree 
floras.  In fact, we do refer to "tabonuco" or "colorado" forests, but 
these aren't dominant species in the temperate sense, they are better 
understood as species that one might frequently find in mature lowland 
or lower montane (respectively) wet forests.  They are indicators of a 
forest type, rather than a successional association.  If you go into a 
mature (>80 year old) forest in the tropics and predict the species of 
tree next to the one you are standing under, you'll need a long list to 
be correct--much longer than in most temperate/alpine regions.

On the other hand, Clements did not work in the tropics, as far as I 
know.  As such, he would have a shorter list of species to work with and 
a set of "climax" forests that were very predictable in dominant 
species--even in species from earlier successional stages, as Marks so 
well illustrated in Pennsylvania.  A most reasonable explanation of 
these patterns would be plant associations.  When forced to explain 
"exceptions" due to waterlogged soil, sandy patches, etc. Clements 
defined smaller associations.  Perhaps the tropical forests represent 
ever more smaller associations due to edaphic and other factors, but it 
is very hard not to believe that our forests are more individualistic 
and our species are more interchangeable.  Gleason began his career in 
Illinois using a Clementsian approach and found cracks in it, even from 
his descriptive work.  Perhaps Clements' calls for more experimentation 
were a smokescreen to diminish the attention paid to his critics.  
Perhaps it was genuine.  Regardless, in hindsight, it was ahead of the 
curve to call for manipulative support for successional concepts.  On 
the other hand, 10 years after the publication of Clements' seminar 
work, Gleason would have had ample experience with very controlled 
observations in much different systems to both support his 
individualistic hypothesis and criticize superorganisms.

So there is my 2c. and as it's after midnight, this post will probably 
miss yet another day in the life of ecolog digests, but thanks for 
letting me provide a postscript.

Skip J. Van Bloem, PhD
Dept. of Agronomy and Soils
University of Puerto Rico at Mayaguez



> Date:    Sat, 17 Feb 2007 13:51:50 -0600
> From:    Robert Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: 1916 Clements reference in electronic version?
>
> The problem I see with Gleason is that his argument is purely
> rhetorical. He does use examples, but no experimental analyses of any
> sort. A key point, again JMHO, is that Gleason talks of SPECIES while
> Clements talks more of life forms. Clements does not predict rigid
> SPECIES compositions, however one of the problems with a lot of Clements
> work is the attempt to define smaller and smaller scale associations of
> life forms.
>
> I could rant on almost indefinitely! Reading Gleason reveals a person
> who is consumed with description only; there is no attempt at any sort
> of experimental analysis. Clements continually insists on experimental
> analysis. The 1916 paper, for example, includes a lot of data. One needs
> to remember where Ecology was in 1916. We had no Evolutionary Synthesis,
> but rather Darwinists vs Mendelists. We had no concept of any sort of
> Functional Ecology outside Clements and his group. Clements challenged
> people who just wanted to describe; Clements wanted experimental
> analysis.

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