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Hi, In answer to Kathleen, some folks wrote years ago that a rare Californian sp= ecies, Arctostaphylos pallida, was effectively extinct because of swamping o= f its gene pool from planted cultivars in the vicinity of the last remaining= extant populations.=C2=A0=20 On this subject, I hope that everyone has read:=C2=A0=20 =C2=A0 McKay, J. K., C. E. Christian, S. Harrison, and K. J. Rice. 2005. "How Local Is Local?" A Review of Practical and Conceptual Issues in the Genetics of Restoration. Restoration Ecology 13:432= -440. Grey Hayes Soquel, California =20 -----Original Message----- From: Kathleen Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Sent: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 1:32 pm Subject: Re: native plants Hi Steve,=20 I'm not an exert and haven't looked for any studies on this, but if the=20 native/non-native hybrids or non-native species can hybridize with nearby=20 native populations, this could be problematic, and might be worse than=20 planting unrelated non-native, non-invasive plants. If pollen a large=20 planted population of non-native hybrids contributes to a large proportion=20 of the seed set in a small, nearby native population, native genetic=20 diversity might be lost quickly over a few generations. I think this has=20 been a concern with corn in central america. Has anyone heard of examples=20 of horticultural species that have caused these kinds of problems? On the other hand, there are pros to planting non-invasive hybrids that are=20 similar to native species. They may be well-adapted to the environment and=20 not require much watering or fertilization. -Kathleen On Dec 18 2007, Steve Kunz wrote: >=20 >In a message dated 12/17/2007 11:48:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, =20 >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >Another option is to consider native/non-native hybrids as well as=20 >native selections from unusual ecotypes. There are many varieties of =20 >azaleas, for instance, that are hybrids between natives and exotic =20 >species. These (non-invasive) plants provide the beauty of large =20 >flowers from their non-native genetic stock with the heat/drought/frost =20 >(depending on the variety) tolerance from their native genes. Two neat=20 >selections from odd ecotypes are the dwarf wax myrtle ('Tom's Dwarf' or=20 >'Don's Dwarf') from or the variegated Florida anise ('Shady Lady'). > > > I am a member of my local Environmental Advisory Council (we assist our=20 > Township supervisors on environmental issues), and we always strongly=20 > recommend the use of native plants in the landscaping proposed for new=20 > developments. Some plants proposed are clearly non-native, but many times=20 > an applicant will propose use of a variety, or hybrid, or some other=20 > cultivar of a native species. Since I am not a botanist, I wonder about=20 > the appropriateness of using cultivated varieties. Is there some limit on=20 > how much hybridization or cross-cultivation (I'm not even sure these are=20 > the correct terms) can be allowed before a plant is no longer considered=20 > "native"? And if so, how can a layperson recognize that the line has been=20 > crossed? >=20 >Any input on this matter would be appreciated. >=20 >Steve Kunz >Vice-Chair, Schuylkill Township EAC=20 >Chester County, Pennsylvania > > > >**************************************See AOL's top rated recipes=20 >(http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=3Daoltop00030000000004) > --=20 ----------------------------- Kathleen S. Knight =20 ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.= aol.com