I have been bothered for a long time by the commodification of not
only university degrees, but the entire educational system itself.
This country's obsession with "free market" ideology may ultimately
be its downfall. The problems with our system start at the earliest
levels of learning and extends all the way up to college. Expecting
schools to behave like businesses and shut them down because they
don't "produce" a good product at a low enough price is a recipe for
disaster. Having an educated and skilled population is a long-term
investment that doesn't seem to coincide with the current mentality
of immediate gratification (both socially and economically). Other
countries that see this are invariably going to outperform us over
time. I am constantly amused by the stories of charter schools
failing or the scandals regarding unaccredited teachers, grade
inflation, etc. The fact that we lack national education standards
in itself is a disgrace. In addition, the attitude that teaching is
not a respectable job makes it unattractive, driving away some of the
most talented individuals. The thing that continues to bother me is
that the presidents of many universities are business leaders or
political figures; hardly the kinds of people who know about
education? Furthermore, the very people who are supposed to do the
teaching at the college level, i.e., faculty, are rarely formally
trained in education. Most of us pick it up on the fly through TA
experience--but rarely is there teacher development. In many
departments (at least in the sciences) teaching is not a priority.
Again, perhaps this market-based concern with productivity has
blinded us to the larger problem, that we are simply not training
students very well any more? In order to attain tenure, faculty have
to spend so much time working on grants and papers to show their
value as producers that they must let something else slide in the
interest of keeping their hard-earned jobs. Our university system
right not is still among the best, but is also populated by talented
foreign students (who may then leave...although right now they seem
to stick around). Perhaps I am biased, as the child of a high school
teacher and now myself a grad student planning on a career in
academia. But I am also pessimistic by nature. Unfortunately I'm
afraid the problem will only get worse, probably starting with a drop
in foreign-student enrollment in US universities, and then perhaps
even a loss of our own academic professionals as they are lured away
by the growing quality of foreign schools. Amid the current economic
downturn (when domestic spending is invariably cut), and if the
situation remains like this for a while, this may come sooner than we
think.
gloomily,
Chris
On Mar 2, 2008, at 3:31 PM, Chris Creese (Czerniak) wrote:
Hi Mike,
I agree with your sentiments - great to see an increase in
contributions from other countries and global integration towards a
common goal (e.g. sea turtle conservation).
I think you've touched on a really critical issue here too. I'm not
questioning the validity of the question, but the utility of
framing this problem in such a way that either non-Western
countries are "catching up" OR we are falling behind. It seems both
forces are at play here.
I'm with you on concern over the ebbing economical stability and
intellectual capital of the country. I also worry about educational
standards slipping and the commodification of university degrees.
But I found that youtube clip especially inflammatory in how it
plays on the notion that "improvements" in other countries threaten
America's power and prowess. Agreed that having jobs outsourced to
other countries is not great for our economy, so perhaps this will
help inspire us to put more energy and resources into the
development of our own intellectual capital?
Cheers
Chris
Quoting "J. Michael Nolan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Chris....
Am on many lists like Ecolog-l that span the globe.....C-Turtle
which promotes Sea Turtle Conservation and the Coral list. It is
great to see contributions and requests for literature, other
resources from all corners of the Earth on these lists. I have
seen an increase each and every year. Obviously the web and
internet have made much of that possible.
We do hear American Education get slammed almost daily. I was
actually raising the question of whether the non-Western
countries/scientists are catching up or are we falling behind. In
the end, Americans should be concerned when jobs are being
outsourced daily to lower cost, equal or better quality options
around the world.
Thanks.
Mike Nolan
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