Jim, Please note that what follows is meant mainly as a general discussion of intellectual property, not of your particular case.
"Why would you think that you can use my hard work without asking?" For the same reason you can cite or quote a paper of mine without asking -- even if you're using it to make a case I strongly disagree with. (That case is not directly analogous, as you wouldn't be copying the entire paper, but then if I use a photo of yours in a presentation, it'll only be on screen for 30 seconds or so.) Moreover, you can make copies of my paper and give them to students or colleagues without my permission. They can read the paper or use it to line the birdcage. If I'm sending you, say, a prepublication copy as a favor, I can ask you not to redistribute it, but once it's published, it's out of my hands. I am honestly intrigued by how people come to think of copying as stealing. If I walk into your house and steal your TV, you no longer have a TV. If I use a photo from your website and credit you, what have you lost? Now, the situation is different if you are a professional photographer and rely on photography to make money. Then the problem becomes truly difficult -- and beyond the scope of ECOLOG! (But keep in mind that hardly anyone is going to pay for a photo for a presentation. If it's not free, I'm just not going to use it.) Don't worry -- I'm not actually going to use anything from your website. You can set whatever conditions you want and, morally and legally, I have to abide by them. But this line of discussion is closely related to that about access to the scientific literature. BTW, why do you set such restrictive conditions on who can use your photos? Best, Jane On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Jim Boone <jlbo...@aol.com> wrote: > Jane, > "If the photo is attributed but used without your explicit permission, would > you call that stealing?" > > In general, yes; but of course, it depends. I have a "conditions for use" > statement on my website that spells out how people can use my hard work. > Turning the question back to you, why would you think that you can use my > hard work without asking? > Cheers, Jim > > http://www.birdandhike.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jane Shevtsov <jane....@gmail.com> > To: Jim Boone <jlbo...@aol.com> > Cc: ECOLOG-L@listserv.umd.edu > Sent: Wed, 13 May 2009 3:06 pm > Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Open Access and Intellectual Imperialism Correction > > Jim, > > How do you define "stealing"? Is it only if the photo is not > attributed to you? If the photo is attributed but used without your > explicit permissi > on, would you call that stealing? I'm just interested > in how different people think about these issues. > > Best, > Jane Shevtsov > > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Jim Boone <jlbo...@aol.com> wrote: >> Tom, >> >> >> I work very hard at my photography, and if you stole a photo from my >> website > to use in your presentation, I'd be pissed. >> >> >> >> Cheers, Jim >> >> http://www.birdandhike.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tom Mosca III <t...@vims.edu> >> To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU >> Sent: Wed, 13 May 2009 5:47 am >> Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Open Access and Intellectual Imperialism >> Correction >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hello Folks, >> >> What are your thoughts on using a copyrighted image in a presentation at a >> meeting? No copies are distributed, but merely displayed. >> >> Thanks, Tom >> >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > ------------- > Jane Shevtsov > Ecology Ph.D. candidate, University of Georgia > co-founder, <www.worldbeyondborders.org> > Check out my blog, <http://perceivingwholes.blogspot.com>Perceiving Wholes > > "Political power comes out of the look in people's eyes." --Kim > Stanley Robinson, _Blue Mars_ > > ________________________________ > Dell Mini Netbooks: Great deals starting at $299 after instant savings! -- ------------- Jane Shevtsov Ecology Ph.D. candidate, University of Georgia co-founder, <www.worldbeyondborders.org> Check out my blog, <http://perceivingwholes.blogspot.com>Perceiving Wholes "Political power comes out of the look in people's eyes." --Kim Stanley Robinson, _Blue Mars_
