In response:
1. The submissions are not peer-reviewed. You can post anything there.
They just screen for stuff that is offensive or "non-scientific." I
wonder what percentage are ever published.
2. I wonder who is citing these papers and where and why? If they are
not reliable resources then why cite them. I'm guessing people want to
get some results out quickly or maybe get some feedback to make the
review process go better.
I don't see the point of posting anything on a website like this one.
The papers are suspect unless peer reviewed and I seriously doubt that
any search committee or any promotions committee would accept a paper
posted at this web site or any others like it as a valid publication.
The peer review process is not perfect, but in most cases we get it
right. If you publish in journals run by non-profit professional
societies it will cost you much less and sometimes nothing at all.
Mitch Cruzan
On 6/1/2018 12:24 PM, Malcolm McCallum wrote:
Hi,
Do many of you use bioarxiv?
I recently became familiar with it, and in searching literature, I
noticed many papers deposited in it have citations in excess of 100.
It brought me to wondering about the role of a preprint server, and
read about 30-40 different commentaries and research articles about
preprint servers last night. the parallel preprint server in physics
and math, arxiv, has been around since 1991. There are a growing
number of people who put their paper in the database, then update it,
but don't ever publish it. There are a number of op-eds and such that
suggest these servers will never or absolutely will replace journals
in the near future.
I have to wonder how long it will be before this overtakes journals
for scholarly communication.
1. some funders are requiring papers to be deposited in a preprint
server..
2. there is no delay.
3. there is opportunity for feedback, sort of a post-peer review, and
for you to revise the article, with all versiions freely available.
4. it is fully accessible by Google Scholar, probably the most used
scholarly search engine at this time.
5. it is fully citable in a manuscript, I saw some that had over 150,
and one with 180 citations. A lot were in the 30's.
6. outside of tenure and review committees, the purpose of pubs is
communication, so if 1-5 are true, I have to wonder why I should fork
out $1500 to some journal to put my findings behind a paywall. Yes, I
plan to publish what I have already posted, but it has crossed my mind
as to whether there is even a point. One could even question whether
a typical tenure and review committee would even notice or care if
these are preprints and not publications if one has been cited dozens
or hundreds of times. This is further reinforced by a trend to
evaluating scientists based on their citations and their paper's
citations rather than on the citations to the journals in which they
have published (investigator impact instead of journal impact).
Anyone else starting to wonder about this?
--
Malcolm L. McCallum
Aquaculture and Water Quality Research Scientist
School of Agriculture and Applied Sciences
Langston University
Langston, Oklahoma
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