Bill, one or hundreds of XML vocabularies and standards won't make a wit of difference whether mappers are necessary or not. Even if there were only one vocabulary each organization would have to map that vocabulary semantically to their internal vocabulary. Also, mapping doesn't necessary require either X12, XML or UN/EDIFACT. Even when dealing with one organization's fixed field/fixed record length files one must map that organization's fields to one's internal fields - this is also mapping. Mapping (or associating one field to another) won't become extinct for decades if not millennia. Rachel Rachel Foerster & Associates, Ltd. 39432 North Avenue Beach Park, IL 60099 Voice: 847-872-8070 Fax: 847-589-8081
_____ From: Bill Chessman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 11:23 AM To: EDI-L Mailing List Subject: RE: [EDI-L] Need Help in Obtaining Mapping Skills William, Clearly, despite the discussion of the last week or so, we're more on the same page than not. I thoroughly agree with you that XML, in and of itself, does not solve the mapping question. Intelligent design of XML messages will answer some of the problem but the proliferation of XML vocabularies and "standards" will keep "mappers" in business for a long time. Best regards, Bill Chessman Inovis(tm) -----Original Message----- From: William J. Kammerer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 5:36 AM To: EDI-L Mailing List Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Need Help in Obtaining Mapping Skills Mike, "mapping" may be an "arcane black art," but I don't see it ever going away. And the more variegated interoperable inter-company standard (EDIFACT or X12 EDI, or XML-based lower-case "edi") messages there are, the more need there is for "mapping"!! William J. Kammerer Novannet Columbus, OH 43221-3859 . USA +1 (614) 487-0320 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Rawlins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, 04 February, 2005 06:36 PM Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Need Help in Obtaining Mapping Skills Gee, someone actually wants to acquire skills in this increasingly obsolete, soon-to-be doomed, arcane black art! Now that I've recovered from my amazement, Ann (or Lori, as the case may be), it helps to have a good foundation in a procedural programming language like C/C++, Java, or VB. Afer that, you need to be conversant with the EDI syntax (probably X12 - there's a tutorial on my web site), and be fluent in reading the various implementation guidelines. Sorry, I know of no training for the latter. Beyond those foundation, prerequisite skills, everything you're going to deal with is product-specific. However, the various products are similar enough in what they do that once you have the prerequisite skills I've noted and become proficient with one product, an employer may give you a chance on a different product. You can get training on various products from respective vendor classes, but you may not want to pay their prices. A cheap way to go is to get a copy of "Demystifying EDI" - see link on my books page (http://www.rawlinsecconsulting.com/bookmag.html). It comes with a trial version of what used to be known as "Trading Partner Desktop". You may also check out one or more of the open-source products that support EDI at Sourceforge.net, and try to teach yourself. Hope this helps. Mike At 02:40 PM 2/4/2005 -0800, Lori Davis wrote: >Is there anyone out there who can help me get some >practical EDI mapping skills? Everytime I go to >interview for a job I don't get hired because I don't >know how to map, yet all of the EDI jobs I've had >won't teach me to map. I'm over qualified for >customer service jobs and underqualified for the >technical jobs because I don't know how to map. > >Being that I'm unemployed right now, I'm willing to >volunteer to help an experienced mapper just to get >some skills. I'm in Northern California. Help!! I'm >at my wit's end. Any suggestions would be >appreciated. Thanks. > >Ann Wilson >510-260-5539 . Please use the following Message Identifiers as your subject prefix: <SALES>, <JOBS>, <LIST>, <TECH>, <MISC>, <EVENT>, <OFF-TOPIC> Access the list online at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L Yahoo! Groups Links . Please use the following Message Identifiers as your subject prefix: <SALES>, <JOBS>, <LIST>, <TECH>, <MISC>, <EVENT>, <OFF-TOPIC> Access the list online at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] . Please use the following Message Identifiers as your subject prefix: <SALES>, <JOBS>, <LIST>, <TECH>, <MISC>, <EVENT>, <OFF-TOPIC> Access the list online at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
