I agree mostly.  
 - It depends on the number of maps, and their complexity.  4 straigtforward
maps, or 200 highly custom ones.
 - Comms only need to be re-done if they are a part of the AS4's EDI
solution.  Otherwise, you just use the PC as a mainframe 'utility' for data
transformation.
 - These days, unless your EDI requirements are completely off-the-hook, a
PC xlator can be placed on *any* shared PC.  I have a client that was
running 400k 837 transactions PER DAY on a Win95 1.2 gz system.  While you
can imagine what my first recommendation was, this is how they processed.  
 - PC licenses are rarely on the same scale as AS4 licenses.

However, you are likely to be correct in the long run, from a financial
efficiency perspective.  Probably what you are saying makes the most sense.
Just offering an alternative for consideration.  And an opportunity to press
the vendor back on his up-charge.

Pete


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From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl
Galgano
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 12:37 PM
To: 'Earl Wertheimer'; 'Thompson, Glenn'; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [EDI-L] System I (AS/400) EDI Software

Unitizing a different translator would involve redoing his interface and all
his maps, partner relationships, communications etc.  That can get quite a
bit more expensive that just the communications cost between the PC and
iSeries.  Utilizing 2 iSeries boxes would almost certainly be less
expensive.  To deploy a decent Pc based translator, I would think at minimum
you are looking at 4-6K in hardware and software, and then the
implementation expense to redo all the maps, interface, etc.

Deploying a second iSeries in the same tier can be done for about 6K, and
utilizing Distributed Data Management (DDM) on the iSeries, the applications
will never have any idea that the EDI translator is sitting on a different
iSeries.  Very minor tweaking would be required to make this totally
seamless to his applications.
cjg 


Carl J. Galgano
EDI Consulting Services, Inc.
770-422-2995
www.ediconsulting.com
 
600 Kennesaw Avenue
Suite 400 
Marietta, GA  30060

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Earl
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Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 12:14 PM
To: Thompson, Glenn; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EDI-L] System I (AS/400) EDI Software

Glenn

Why not put the EDI stuff on a normal PC and save piles of money?

The difference in licensing costs is probably more than setting up the
communications between the PC and the AS/400.

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Subject: [EDI-L] System I (AS/400) EDI Software

> I'm a little peeved at the moment. I shouldn't be, because I know how 
> the games works but it still hacks me off.
> 
> 
> 
> We are running EDI on our System I (AS/400, Iseries, etc.). We are 
> upgrading our System I and the new box is in a higher "tier". Our EDI 
> translator provider wants us to pay them a "L A R G E" sum of money so 
> we can run the existing software on the upgraded box.
> 
> 
> 
> No more functionality, no new features, no changes, just the same 
> version running on the new box. As I said I know how the game works 
> but I can't believe that companies are still doing this. But as long 
> as they can get away with it they will continue.
> 
> 
> 
> I guess other than venting I'm wondering if other people have run into 
> this and if they able to "negotiate".
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