There's a lot of truth in your comments. We usually don't make a habit of
making requests of our customers, even though there definitely are times
when
it's the only appropriate solution. There's the "make it work" mentality to
contend with.

We currently use the 812 (your option 2) with some customers, but not all
support
that method- since from the customer's perspective it amounts to letting
someone
hold on to thousands of your dollars for a month or two - when you could be
earning
returns on it in your own account.
   
>>Finally, you might have to work with and educate your marketing
management;
Whoa! Now, let's not be hasty! We may need to replace this accounting system
before we
go there. :)

Thank you Susan


Travis-  

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Stecklair [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 1:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: Complex SAC segment handling in 850 & 810


Hi Travis --

I have several thoughts, but I had a similar dilemma when trying to 
automate a company that had a very complex pricing models.  They called 
it configured pricing.  Their pricing manager seemed almost proud that 
they had hired a consultant & he wasn't able to figure out how to 
download their pricing into an EXCEL spreadsheet based upon all of their 
configurations.

Their distributors would get a set discount -- example of 20%.  In 
addition, there might be special pricing based upon channel:  DOD got 
another discount, educational institutions another, etc.   Then there 
might be a special marketing program offer, "end of quarter get product 
out the door special", etc.

My suggestion to you is:

    * have your distributors/customers send their net contract price on
      the PO1

To manage the other scenarios there were 2 options:

    * Option 1:  Create unique skus for each part number/channel  (solve
      most of the issues).  Perhaps even create special SKU's for
      programs. 
    * Option 2:  Incorporate a Request for Credit/Response.  So the
      orders are placed with the contract discounted price only.  Then
      your distributor/customer or company places a separate request for
      credit which can be incorporated in a database, reviewed, & then
      the appropriate credits are issued.   There are EDI transactions
      for this, but you could also first implement a comma delimited
      file.  Then your order management/invoicing process is simple, and
      you are dealing with exception processing outside of the order
      management process.

Finally, you might have to work with and educate your marketing 
management; that the company does not have a sophisticated system, and 
their marketing/pricing plans are not in synch with their strategic 
strategy of making your company easy to work with.  Even though they 
were able to do this at Proctor & Gamble, you are a small operation.  
This gets delicate, but needs to be communicated.  Frequently, companies 
have quarterly reviews with their key customers & this could be broached 
at this time with them.   Naturally you would have to work a program 
with your customers, to understand their issues, too.

Feel free to contact me offline if you wish to discuss further.   It is 
difficult to assess the root cause of your problem with so little 
information, but this appears to be a broken business process, and not 
something you should try to fix with as only an EDI mapping issue.

Good luck

Susan Stecklair, President Electronic Commerce, Inc.
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