I've applied and got jobs that advertise that a BS is required (I only have an 
2 year degree). When they see all my experience the BS degree isn't all that 
important - to most.
 
It's too bad I don't have Gentran experience because I'm currently unemployed.
 
Toni
 

--- On Wed, 12/17/08, Leah Halpin <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Leah Halpin <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Fw: EDI Coordinator - HOT!
To: "Art Douglas" <[email protected]>, "Michael Mattias/LS" 
<[email protected]>, [email protected]
Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 12:09 PM






It's mainly an HR thing. Lots of larger companies use it to weed out 
applicants. I ran into this a long time ago before I even knew how to spell 
EDI. I went back to school, finished up my BS and now it doesn't matter at all 
that it's in Economics and not computer science or related, it's truly BS, but 
my Dad called it "paying dues" and I guess maybe he's right. Not fair, but he's 
right. Mostly I see this happening when it's a buyer's market. It goes away 
when the economy is booming..... here's hoping!

Merry Christmas to all whom it applies and Happy whatever else you might 
celebrate to everyone else!

Oh, and, Art, I think you've got plenty of BS ;) to go with all that experience 
(I know you've had to put up with lots of it, anyway).

Leah

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Art Douglas <adouglasedi@ gmail.com>
To: Michael Mattias/LS <mcmlse...@talsystem s.com>; ed...@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 11:28:23 AM
Subject: RE: [EDI-L] Fw: EDI Coordinator - HOT!

Never mind that, Michael. You don't want it. You may not have noticed the
rate: Open - Keep Low. I don't know how that aligns with "HOT" in the
subject. I used to think "open" meant, "we'll pay what the candidate wants
if they can deliver the goods." But lately it means, "closed" - like the
posture of somebody playing poker, IOW, "I am not going to tip you off to
what the client is willing to pay, because it's not enough. I hope you'll
be desperate enough to settle."

Okay, rant over. I don't need a gig right now anyway, thank God, or I might
be desperate enough to settle.

I once had an interview with the Los Angeles County Dept. of Mental Health
(had to be crazy to want that one) where there was a BS Comp Sci
requirement. I have an AA in business. My resume clearly states what I
have, and doesn't imply that I have what I haven't. I told the recruiter
that I didn't have the undergrad degree. The interview went well,
embarrassingly so, (they were practically gushing when they thought they
could hire me.) We concluded, shook hands warmly, and I was halfway out the
door when one of the interviewers asked, "oh, by the way, where did you say
your degree was from?" After that they couldn't get rid of me fast enough.
Other than that, it has been mostly a non-issue. Academics has never gotten
in the way of my education, nor of me delivering the work. Companies
frequently cite the requirement, but like everything else, if they find the
right person, the specific requirements may not be as important as they make
it look.

Maybe I'll go back and get that BS before I retire.

Art Douglas
Lead Consultant
Blackwater Network
(877) 464-8915

-----Original Message-----
From: ed...@yahoogroups. com [mailto:EDI- l...@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of
Michael Mattias/LS
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 6:53 AM
To: ed...@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Fw: EDI Coordinator - HOT!

>Req. #: 12242 Position: EDI Coordinator
....
>Other Information:
>Undergraduate Degree in computer science or
>related field.

I am not looking for a job, but I've always wondered how this requirement 
could be met by those of us who have actually been *doing* this kind of 
thing since BEFORE there was such a thing as "Computer Science" in which one

could earn a degree.

???

MCM

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