Hi, Update on this. The phone lines were switched and it looks like things are working okay (knock on wood). Got lucky on this one. Thanks for all the feedback. TS
--- In [email protected], Earl Wertheimer <earlw@...> wrote: > > Rachel > > > HL7 is not a transport/enveloping specification. Itâs a format and > > data content for the actual clinical data exchange. Fax is transport. > > You are being a bit pedantic ;-). > > We all know the difference between faxes and digital data transmission. > > My point was that until there is a secure and simple way for a hospital to > send > test results to a doctor or a doctor to send consultation requests, etc to > other doctors, faxes will never die. > > Until doctors can see the advantage of HL7 and all parties will be able to > send > and receive HL7 messages, faxes will continue. > > I also install EMR software for doctors and faxing is a huge waste of time. > Unfortunately, in many instances, there is no better replacement... yet. > > Pharmacies still require hand-signed prescriptions and Labs still require > archaic forms. > > PS: The fax transmission standard also includes the encoding and compression > of > digital data. > > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > > Earl Wertheimer > > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 12:59 PM > > To: David Frenkel; [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [EDI-L] bisync over a IP based phone? > > > > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > I was in a large hospital just a couple of years ago and they were > > > using faxes to communicate business documents between the clinical > > > areas and purchasing, I doubt that has changed. > > > > Most medical clinics still use faxes to communicate. > > > > Some have switched to HL7, but until someone comes up with a simple and > > secure > > method to send emails, medical information will continue to be sent by fax. > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Skip Stein <skip@... <mailto:skip%40msc-inc.net> > > > > To: David Frenkel <frenkel@... <mailto:frenkel%40worldnet.att.net> > > > > Cc: EDI-L EDI-L <[email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> > > > >; David Frenkel <frenkel@... <mailto:frenkel%40att.net> > > > > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 12:15 PM > > > Subject: Re: [EDI-L] bisync over a IP based phone? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello David, > > > > > > I don't disagree, but I don't believe many corporations are still at this > > > primitive level. True, many do not have decent Internet access and that > > > is a shame, but will change over the short term. If a company is still > > > using bisync and fax technology, I view that as a tremendous opportunity > > > to help them get current, save money and gain market share by increasing > > > their ability to compete. Always the consultant.... <grin>! > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Skip Stein > > > > > > Management Systems Consulting, Inc. > > > http://www.msc-inc.net > > > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/skipstein > > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/SkipStein > > > > > > Direct: 407-680-3914 > > > Cell: 407-683-6816 > > > Office: 800-856-3193 > > > Fax: 888-243-1843 > > > > > > Friday, May 18, 2012, 1:07:15 PM, you wrote: > > > > > > In this Internet, technology crazed world it is still estimated that 20% > > > of the people in the US do not use the Internet so there still is a > > > market for old technology. > > > > > > http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats.htm > > > > > > David Frenkel > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Skip Stein <skip@... <mailto:skip%40msc-inc.net> > > > > To: Travis Truax <travis.truax@... > > > <mailto:travis.truax%40hannascandles.com> > > > > Cc: tcstoodt <timstoodt@... <mailto:timstoodt%40comcast.net> >; > > > [email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 11:29 AM > > > Subject: Re: [EDI-L] bisync over a IP based phone? > > > > > > Hello Travis, > > > > > > Fax? Another decades old obsolete technology. People still display 'fax > > > numbers' instead of email addresses. Insanity persists. Inefficient, > > > obsolete, time consuming and waste of energy and paper (do they still use > > > paper?). And companies wonder why they loose money and cut manpower > > > instead of making the infrastructure more efficient. Another indicator of > > > obsolete thinking in American businesses. What are they teaching in > > > colleges these days? Use of stone knives and bear claws? > > > > > > Happy Friday! > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Skip Stein > > > > > > Management Systems Consulting, Inc. > > > http://www.msc-inc.net > > > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/skipstein > > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/SkipStein > > > > > > Direct: 407-680-3914 > > > Cell: 407-683-6816 > > > Office: 800-856-3193 > > > Fax: 888-243-1843 > > > > > > Friday, May 18, 2012, 12:17:40 PM, you wrote: > > > > > > Hi Skip. No idea - He asked the question, I gave him an answer. > > > Seems about normal to me. Crappy old stuff just won't die. I'm trying to > > > diagnose a faxing problem right now..... > > > > > > Travis- > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Skip Stein" <skip@... <mailto:skip%40msc-inc.net> > > > > To: "Travis Truax" <travis.truax@... > > > <mailto:travis.truax%40hannascandles.com> > > > > Cc: "tcstoodt" <timstoodt@... <mailto:timstoodt%40comcast.net> >, > > > [email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 11:03:15 AM > > > Subject: Re: [EDI-L] bisync over a IP based phone? > > > > > > Re: [EDI-L] bisync over a IP based phone? Hello Travis, > > > > > > Why in the world would anyone attempt to even do this? 20 year old > > > technology, while great at the time (I was there!) is so error-prone and > > > unreliable, not to mention slower than spit running uphill. Might be fun > > > for a school project to show the history of telecommunications and how it > > > has changed but in the 'real world'? Not so much. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Skip Stein > > > > > > Management Systems Consulting, Inc. > > > http://www.msc-inc.net > > > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/skipstein > > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/SkipStein > > > > > > Direct: 407-680-3914 > > > Cell: 407-683-6816 > > > Office: 800-856-3193 > > > Fax: 888-243-1843 > > > > > > Friday, May 18, 2012, 9:46:41 AM, you wrote: > > > > > > My first response would have been that this is a really bad idea, but > > > it's been so long since we used bisync - I had forgotten how slow a baud > > > rate those used. > > > Aren't they 4800 or 9600? If it's not going above like 14400, you *may* > > > be able to find a solid ATA that will work for you. As long as the ATA is > > > connected to the phone switch via a LAN, and nothing remote. Higher (read > > > normal) baud rates with modems or faxes in general do not work over VoIP. > > > The slower the better your chance of success. It would be really sad if > > > you had to slow your bisync down to keep it working. ;) > > > > > > Travis- > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "tcstoodt" < timstoodt@... <mailto:timstoodt%40comcast.net> > > > > To: [email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 8:10:15 AM > > > Subject: [EDI-L] bisync over a IP based phone? > > > > > > Hi, > > > Would an old bisync modem connection to a van still work if the phone > > > line it was using was switched from a landline to an IP phone? > > > Has anyone done this? We're converting to AS2 but our phone guys want to > > > make this switch right away. Thanks. 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