On 02/11/16 02:52, Mangefeste, Tony wrote: > I understand better. My concern is if there's some sort of ongoing headcount > required to maintain Bugzilla. As was stated before, if there's a > maintenance requirement is that a hard requirement? Or can the > software/system run autonomously for long periods of time without human > intervention*. > > *I have no direct experience administering Bugzilla, just using it.
I think both Leif and Bruce (downthread) are right. I think with a relatively low bug load, and a low concurrent user count, Bugzilla should run mostly untended indeed. At Red Hat though, there have been dedicated longer-term efforts by dedicated people to optimize performance, develop features / customizations, and fix bugs. What Leif mentioned should be stressed however, about those orders of magnitude differences in ticket load. In my personal account, end of 2010, start of 2011, new BZ numbers were assigned around 640 thousand (but I worked on bugs with as low numbers as ~450 thousand). One bug I opened last week was above 1,304 thousand. On average, that's about 133 thousand new bugs per year, or ~2.56 thousand new bugs per week. (The growth has not been linear though, in my impression.) Things we shouldn't forget even in the "untended" case: security updates, and regular database backups. Laszlo > > -----Original Message----- > From: Leif Lindholm [mailto:leif.lindh...@linaro.org] > Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 5:26 PM > To: Mangefeste, Tony <tony.mangefe...@intel.com> > Cc: Laszlo Ersek <ler...@redhat.com>; Ard Biesheuvel > <ard.biesheu...@linaro.org>; edk2-devel@lists.01.org <edk2-de...@ml01.01.org> > Subject: Re: [edk2] Task: Issue Tracking System for Tianocore > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 12:59:52AM +0000, Mangefeste, Tony wrote: >> Do you have funding estimates you would share with me from a Linaro >> perspective? Of course, it doesn't have to be shared out in this >> context, but if you have such data it'd be interesting to compare our >> resources with what is required to run Bugzilla. > > Funding estimates for using Bugzilla? I mean, I could ask but I think > the answer would basically be "a machine running Linux". > > I would expect the ticket load for Tianocore to be an order of > magnitude below what Linaro is seeing (across toolchains, Android, > kernel, OpenEmbedded, ...), and a couple of orders of magnitude below > what Red Hat are seeing. > > / > Leif > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Leif Lindholm [mailto:leif.lindh...@linaro.org] >> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 4:53 PM >> To: Laszlo Ersek <ler...@redhat.com> >> Cc: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheu...@linaro.org>; Mangefeste, Tony >> <tony.mangefe...@intel.com>; edk2-devel@lists.01.org >> <edk2-de...@ml01.01.org> >> Subject: Re: [edk2] Task: Issue Tracking System for Tianocore >> >> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 12:08:16AM +0100, Laszlo Ersek wrote: >>> On 02/10/16 23:59, Mangefeste, Tony wrote: >>>> I've gone down the track of using Bugzilla as well. Aside from >>>> the massive list of pros listed below, gathering any other >>>> preference is welcomed. I have used Bugzilla, but never been a maintainer >>>> on it. >>>> We do have some resources lined up for management of Bugzilla, if >>>> needed, so that's not a barrier. Of course, the devil's in the >>>> details. >>>> >>>> So in short, Bugzilla is top of my mind right now. I'm looking at >>>> other OSS projects and seeing what they use. If anyone here sees >>>> one not listed below or has an opinion that they care to express >>>> please do so. On the mobility view, I'll try to play around with >>>> that and see how it looks on my mobile devices. >>>> >>>> Welcome to real-time decision making, thought process spewing. >>> >>> I recall that Linaro uses JIRA: >>> https://cards.linaro.org/ >> >> Retired. >> >>> Oh wait, there seems to be a new URL (still JIRA): >>> https://projects.linaro.org >> >> Yup. >> >>> I am (was?) subscribed to a minimal set of CARDs only, in the first >>> system; I don't have any real experience with JIRA. Ard, Leif, can >>> you please share your thoughts? >> >> We use Jira for project management. >> https://bugs.linaro.org/ is bugzilla. >> >> Strongly support bugzilla over both Jira and the github one. >> >> Regards, >> >> Leif _______________________________________________ edk2-devel mailing list edk2-devel@lists.01.org https://lists.01.org/mailman/listinfo/edk2-devel
