At 07:57 AM 4/26/00 -0500, Herman Rubin wrote:


>It does not surprise me one bit.  The typical statistics
>course teaches statistical methods and pronouncements, with
>no attempt to achieve understanding.  .... snip of more

this is something i happen to agree with herman about ... but, it is a much 
broader problem than can be attributed to what happens in one course

it is an attitude about what higher education is all about ... and what the 
goals are for it

'going to college' ... be it undergraduate level or graduate level ... has 
become a much more hit and miss experience, residence has little meaning 
... that is being tailored more and more to the convenience of students ... 
and to what is 'user' friendly (or it won't SELL). studying principles in 
disciplines is hard work ... NOT user friendly ... so, less and less is 
being required in the way of diligent study.

take graduate school for example ... there was a time, was there not ... 
where doctoral students were REALLY expected to be responsible for their 
dissertations AND were expected to be the experts in that particular area 
of inquiry ... AND to be competent enough to have done the work him/herself 
... and to UNDERSTAND it .. ie, BE ABLE TO DEFEND ALL OF IT

but, what i have noticed over many years is that dissertations are becoming 
more of a committee effort ... yes, the student MAY have had the idea 
(though not necessarily) but, from there ... he/she gets help with the 
design ... has someone else do the analysis (because he/she did not take 
any/sufficient work in analytic methods to understand what is going on) ... 
gets help in writing and editing .. and, even gets help in terms of what 
their results MEAN ...

gives new meaning to the term: "cooperative learning"





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