if anyone is online between now and about noon (it is 10:50AM here now) ... have a look at http://roberts.ed.psu.edu/users/droberts/denoff~2.jpg if you want to see a really REALLY scary pic ... THAT is the url to look at hit the reload or refresh button now and then web cams are neat ... as long as you KNOW they are turned on! Dennis Roberts, EdPsy, Penn State University 208 Cedar Bldg., University Park PA 16802 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], AC 814-863-2401, FAX 814-863-1002 WWW: http://roberts.ed.psu.edu/users/droberts/drober~1.htm FRAMES: http://roberts.ed.psu.edu/users/droberts/drframe.htm =========================================================================== This list is open to everyone. Occasionally, less thoughtful people send inappropriate messages. Please DO NOT COMPLAIN TO THE POSTMASTER about these messages because the postmaster has no way of controlling them, and excessive complaints will result in termination of the list. For information about this list, including information about the problem of inappropriate messages and information about how to unsubscribe, please see the web page at http://jse.stat.ncsu.edu/ ===========================================================================