On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 15:47:58 GMT, "Luigi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello to everyone,
> 
> I have a question for you.
> I have a two samples and I need to run a test on percentgate.
> 
> Suppose to have the following two samples:
> 
> N_1: 100
> N_1: 100
[ oops, N_2=100   I presume]
> 
> P_1: 70%
> P_2: 56%
> 
> If I run a two-sided test I get p=0.0416 (4.16%)
> 
> Therefore the difference is significant if I consider alfa=5% (type I
> error).
> 
> But what about the beta error (type II error)? How can I compute beta?
> 

Notice, you did not "compute"  alpha: You set it, to 5%, then
proclaimed an 'apparent difference' -- making you subject to
being guilty of Type 1 error, falsely proclaiming a difference,
if that was by chance..

Since you proclaim a difference, you are not guilty of 
*missing* a real difference, which would be the Type 2 error.

If you assume that the underlying rates are actually 70% and
56%, then you could ask, "What is the power for a 5% two-tailed
test, comparing two samples of 100?" - Power is (1-beta), and
power is what is usually tabled and discussed.

 - Since the sample did show the difference, the power is 
above 50%;  since it did not show the difference very strongly,
(4%) the power is not *much* above 50%.  For that question, 
the beta-error is thus about 45% or so (power 55-60%).  i would 
find the exact power by computing the 2x2 chisquared as the
test, and using the chisquared or the phi as entry into the 
appropriate table in Cohen's text.  For something *this*
straightforward, I would consider using a computer program
to show various powers for various comparisons.

-- 
RIch Ulrich, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pitt.edu/~wpilib/index.html
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