And doing a Pearson Coorelation and a t-test doesn't tell you the overall
impact of the error.

Paul R. Swank, Ph.D. 
Professor, Developmental Pediatrics
Medical School
UT Health Science Center at Houston 


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On 10 May 2004 14:45:02 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul R Swank)
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> The Pearson Correlation documents that the scores are in the same 
> relative order over time and the paired t-test determines if there is 
> a shift in means. A more direct approach is to use a generalizability 
> analysis where the relative error ICC is the reliability ignoring mean 
> differences and the absolute plus relative error ICC takes into 
> account both.
> 

That works okay if you don't care to explore or can't
fix the sources of mean differences.  But it is pretty hard
to compare to versions of ICC, to estimate whether there
is evidence that the means have a problem.

> Brennan, R.L. (1983). Elements of generalizability theory. Iowa City, 
> IA: ACT Publications.
> 
> Cronbach, L.J., Gleser, G.C., Nanda, H., & Rajaratnam, N. (1972). The 
> dependability of behavioral measurement: Theory of generalizability 
> for scores and profiles. New York: John Wiley & Sons, Inc. (Cronbach, 
> Gleser, Nanda, & Rajaratnam, 1972).
> 
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