On 6/3/06, francois schnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Nice! This is obviously not the work of hobbyists. However, while the GUI is impressive, I am somewhat puzzled by their choice of angle measurement: 0 degree is "up" ( i.e. y-axis in the traditional notation), 90 degrees is "right" (i.e. x-axis), etc. So, angles are increasing in the clockwise direction, starting from the y-axis. I wonder what their rationale is to use this non-conventional notation. It reminds me of the standard choice for the origin (top left) of screen image, with increasing y-coordinates going down, versus the standard mathematical choice for the origin (center ... or bottom left) with increasing y-coordinates going up.
After reading Kay's post, I can say that Crunchy Frog appears to be heading in a similar way (fingers crossed) where you will be able to do turtle graphics. (And, hopefully, eventually ... embedded rur-ple :-) Who knows, one day, perhaps patapata will be supported in a browser using Crunchy Frog. (mostly Python with some _javascript_ code and using the <canvas> tag.)
André
On 03/06/06, Paul D. Fernhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
- Python resources (+ videos)
- all the educational Python softs possible (patapata, vpython, Crunchy-Frog, rur-ple, "gnu-math", pyro, pygeo, pygame, pymol, etc ...)
- Pyhon and Python bindings apps to make contents with (Blender, Gimp, etc) or to play games.
In fact I'd like something I could show to people and say : all this software are done either in Python or you can tinker them with Python (bindings) and if you want to begin to discover/learn Python all you need is the live CD and begin playing with all these.
Concerning your java options, I don't know if you've seen the Logo TNG Gui on OS-X :
http://education.mit.edu/starlogo-tng/tutorial-videos/
Nice! This is obviously not the work of hobbyists. However, while the GUI is impressive, I am somewhat puzzled by their choice of angle measurement: 0 degree is "up" ( i.e. y-axis in the traditional notation), 90 degrees is "right" (i.e. x-axis), etc. So, angles are increasing in the clockwise direction, starting from the y-axis. I wonder what their rationale is to use this non-conventional notation. It reminds me of the standard choice for the origin (top left) of screen image, with increasing y-coordinates going down, versus the standard mathematical choice for the origin (center ... or bottom left) with increasing y-coordinates going up.
I'm not a big Java fan but if Java applets could help to bring patapata in a browser with some python code background it could be important.
For Alan Kay the browser is something to reconsider:
http://www.redhat.com/archives/olpc-software/2006-April/msg00035.html
After reading Kay's post, I can say that Crunchy Frog appears to be heading in a similar way (fingers crossed) where you will be able to do turtle graphics. (And, hopefully, eventually ... embedded rur-ple :-) Who knows, one day, perhaps patapata will be supported in a browser using Crunchy Frog. (mostly Python with some _javascript_ code and using the <canvas> tag.)
André
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