On 9/8/06, Douglas S. Blank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kirby, > > As a teacher, I don't have time to argue over on python-dev what should > and should not be included in the language. And don't want to! I am > thinking of our "petition nonsense" as a data point for those people > that do take the time over on python-dev to figure out the best thing to > do next, and I'll trust them.
As a teacher, I don't want other teachers meddling with our snake on a "don't have time" basis -- except in their individual capacities. As "petition signers" I have no interest in them. > It seemed to at least a few people on the list that python-dev'ers may > not have fully considered the ramifications of this particular change in > regards to teaching. We simply want to let them know about this > oversight. John has written probably the best-selling textbook for intro > Python; if he is concerned, then they should at least take a second look > at it (whatever "it" might be.) John gets my respect and attention, but that doesn't mean he adds any weight to his views by circulating a petition (which, for the record *he has not done*). The minute he politicizes it in this way, I start to lower my opinion. > As far as I understood the discussion about removing "print", it was to > remove it as an expression and add it as a function. This is a good move > (in my opinion) because it is now even more parallel with input(), and > makes more sense, and makes it more useful. If the discussion was to > turn "print" into "sys.stdout.write()" then I think some teachers would > again be upset, and rightly so. Maybe they should rename it output() > though. :) I'm sick of these "teachers" you keep talking about. They should all just go away, and let the real programmers have their jobs. Don't even *think* about teaching Python if you haven't coded in it professionally and made real money off it. That's closer to my attitude than "oh, the teachers are upset, we should care." > Now, it's time for the semester to begin... ACK > > -Doug I hope we continue ignoring "teachers" completely, but not John Zelle. I also listen to Arthur and Dethe. Kirby _______________________________________________ Edu-sig mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig
