On 9/12/06, Joshua Zucker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I think the point is that a C programmer can start writing C++
> programs without having to change anything -- legal C programs will
> still run just fine in C++.  Then the C programmer can gradually learn
> whatever parts of the extensions of C++ at whatever rate, and slowly
> evolve into a C++ programmer.
>
> --Joshua Zucker

For me it's less a question of what runs what in purely syntactical terms

-- if A++ runs A unchanged, then I'd tend to call A++ an "extended
version" of A i.e. A++ is the "full language" with A a kernel, core or
subset thereof --

and more a question of learning curves.  What's a realistic
transition?  How might we recruit to our language and not loose too
many, even the ready and willing, over some cliff?

Python is more a cosmopolitan meeting ground of friendly ideas from
several good languages (albiet some of them obscure) than it is remote
or alien, like J is, or M.

Python feels friendly, not intimidating.  That's not just because it's
agile, although that's a big part of it.

I talk about this in my presentation to the London Knowledge Lab
earlier this year -- about how I "feel like a genius" when I get my J
stuff working, yet I'm suspicious of that.

I prefer "an ordinary experience" most of the time, and I get that in Python.

http://bfi.org/pythonicmathematics

One cool part about all this is I'm *not* required to "abandon J" just
because I like Python or vice versa.

When it comes to computer languages, I don't believe in monogamy.

Don't get married to Python, just hook up.  We'll gladly share you with another.

Kirby
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