On Feb 6, 2007, at 4:20 PM, John Zelle wrote: > You're right that on some platforms Tk windows will not "surface." > I haven't > found a way around this problem yet. I don't understand what you > mean by the > Console window. Aren't you using IDLE's shell?
Yes. > In general the popping up behind problem is not a big deal since > you can just > click on the appropriate icon on the task bar to bring it to the front > (Windows and Linux). Although this may not work on the Mac... Yes, there's a workaround, but it feels like one shouldn't have to work around it. We Mac users are spoiled that way. :-) >> 2) Once the main loop starts, you can't enter new commands into the >> IDLE shell. > > I don't understand this comment. Are you running IDLE in it's > normal mode Please disregard this comment. It's okay as long as you don't run mainloop(). >> 3) It is object-oriented, confusing students with the combination of >> regularFunctions() and object.methods(). I'd just as soon avoid this >> if possible. > > I can understand this if that's your goal. My point was to use > graphics as a > very concrete way to introduce the idea of objects. I don't find > that my > students have any problems at all with using objects (writing their > own > classes is another story). I discovered last semester that (these) students find graphics VERY appealing, so I wanted to introduce that on day 1. I'd rather have them start off with line([0, 0], [100, 100]) than win = GraphWin() myLine = Line(Point(0, 0), Point(100, 100)) myLine.draw(win) >> If anyone can direct me to a way around the first two problems I >> could, of course, write wrapper functions to deal with the third. > > Yes, it would be very easy to wrap flat functions around my > graphics library > if you restrict yourself to one graphics window. Working on it... Thanks, Peter Drake Assistant Professor of Computer Science Lewis & Clark College http://www.lclark.edu/~drake/ _______________________________________________ Edu-sig mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig
