Paul D. Fernhout wrote: > Michael- > > Thanks for the update. An entire Python compiler to make it work right?
No, the module I linked to is self-contained, although hardly user-friendly, I concede. I believe that custom-compilation *will* be required to tackle some corner cases, but I haven't implemented it. > Wow. I don't use many class methods so I've never noticed this problem. > Thanks for putting this up, and under the Python license (according to > the readme). > http://svn.brownspencer.com/pycompiler/branches/new_ast/readme.txt Yep, Python license. > Is this in any ways related to PyPy? > http://codespeak.net/pypy/dist/pypy/doc/news.html No. It's just an update/replacement for the stdlib compiler package which has several known problems, and which does not support the native Python 2.5 AST. > > In the Jython reload case I have noticed a different problem, which is > that a method with a call to super__ will fail. ... Unfortunately, I don't know any details about Jython's implementation, but this doesn't surprise me. > > I don't believe CPython reloading has any of those problems, since it is > not doing the kind of reflection Jython does. No, although it's pretty easy to come up with corner cases to confuse CPython reloading too. > > > When even Visual Basic or C# or Ruby can do this "edit and continue", I > am worried about Python's future if it does not gain this feature. See > for example: > http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000507.html I strongly agree. Edit and continue is intuitive for beginners, productive for experts, and anyway the standard set by competitors. ... > > Note that I think that even if it was impossible in Python to resume > from an exception (without major surgery in Python's innards), being > able to break on the creation of any exception in the debugger, and then > one by one tell the debugger to ignore some of them based on the type of > exception or the module it is created in, would probably still be OK > enough if you could then edit and continue before the exception was > actually raised. This weaker form of "Edit and continue" would be harder > to use, but probably still worthwhile given the right IDE tools. I suspect that this requires a customized interpreter, and that pypy might be the vehicle to make this happen. Michael _______________________________________________ Edu-sig mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig
