The link as it came through on the list was broken - you need to add the 
second line to finish it...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/04/03/ST2008040303977.html

(Let's see if this one makes it through in one piece - if not reassemble 
manually. )

Vern

Charles Cossé wrote:

> I just tried to read the article and it says "unauthorized" on an 
> otherwise white page!
> -Charles
> 
> On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 6:31 PM, Vern Ceder <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> 
>     Yes, what gets accepted and for what kind of credit is wildly variable
>     from school to school...
> 
>     Even though I've taught it for years, and it's not a *terrible*
>     curriculum, I don't care for the AP much - the very fact that you're
>     driven by an exam tends to deflect you from covering concepts in real
>     depth (and also tends to make you write odd little programs that
>     illustrate the test topics instead of larger projects that do
>     something). My  administrators would not be happy to hear me say it, but
>     I wouldn't mind opting out myself...
> 
>     Vern
> 
>     kirby urner wrote:
>      > What I've heard is in Oregon the state schools don't honor or
>     accept any
>      > AP CS deal.  It's an opt out scheme after all.  However, nearby
>     Utah does
>      > accept it, so you have a lot of wannabes avidly learning Java to
>     get ahead
>      > in the Utah scene somehow.  Interesting ecology.
>      >
>      > Kirby
>      >
>      >
>      > On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 5:18 PM, Vern Ceder
>     <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
>     wrote:
>      >> Actually only the AB CS exam is being cut - it's the more
>     advanced of
>      >>  the two, trying to do some things with advanced data structures and
>      >>  algorithms. The A version of the CS exam remains and will be
>      >>  strengthened, according to the email sent to AP CS teachers.
>      >>
>      >>  The problem with the AB exam as I understand it was that it was
>     too much
>      >>  for a year of HS in a lot of porograms, but not enough for
>     credit for an
>      >>  extra semester of college credit.
>      >>
>      >>  Cheers,
>      >>  Vern
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>  Jonah Bossewitch wrote:
>      >>  > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/04/03/
>      >>  > ST2008040303977.html
>      >>  >
>      >>  > Pretty disheartening considering the declining interest in CS
>      >>  > majors.... so much for switching to python on the AP exam.
>     Even java
>      >>  > is better than no AP (mostly ;-) )
>      >>  >
>      >>  > /jsb
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