FYI, I dumped Graphing Calculators completely in my Multivariable Calculus class that I'm teaching right now during summer session at the local community college.
I'm using SageCell, have a look, http://shadowfaxrant.blogspot.com and http://www.youtube.com/calcpage2009 HTH, AJG Sent from BlueMail On Jul 10, 2018, 9:40 AM, at 9:40 AM, kirby urner <kirby.ur...@gmail.com> wrote: >Hi Sergio -- > >Per this article, with so many states and no national curriculum (I >don't >advocate for one), it's tough to generalize about US schools: > >https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2018/07/americas-schools/564413/ > >Now, to generalize :-D > >The mathematics classroom was rarely also a computer lab. If the >school >has a computer lab, that's usually a separate facility and they learn >business applications and typing, rarely much programming, until rather >recently. > >Today, schools likely have Chromebooks in large charging cabinets on >rollers. Fewer schools give out Chromebooks to each student but that's >the >trend, perhaps from 6th or 7th grade up. > >The mathematics curriculum has never integrated any programming as >there's >still that sense that programming takes years to learn and would be a >huge >detour. Those of us more familiar with the state of the art don't see >it >that way. > >You're right that Mathematica paved the way for a small subculture and >I-Python, Sage, Jupyter Notebooks, SymPy do feature in some US schools, >but >very few. > >Rather than integrate mathematics and learning to code, the strong >belief >is we need to keep math and computer science separated, which means >teaching a lot of things twice, given the Venn Diagram shows large >overlap. > >Your book, which I've been reading, takes the more integrated approach >that >I favor. > >Math teachers are in a tough position I think, as a lot of the mathy >content that students find most attractive is being placed in another >subject area. > >I have my opinions about all this, as a former high school math teacher >turned applications programmer and teacher-trainer. > >https://medium.com/@kirbyurner/the-plight-of-high-school-math-teachers-c0faf0a6efe6 > >Finding a lot of computer science teachers in a hurry is the name of >the >game right now, and lots of educators are selling on ramp teacher >training >programs. That's becoming a big business. > >I expect many with a math teaching background are currently migrating >to >computer science, so in some sense my desire for better integration is >being fulfilled. Some of this on ramp programs teach a language called >Pyret, which we're told is the better way to go. > >Kirby > > > > >On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 5:13 AM, Sergio Rojas <sergi...@mail.com> >wrote: > >> >> > here's a blog post raising the alarm >> > that Python (among others) is "completely incompatible with >mathematics". >> > >> > >> > https://blogs.ams.org/matheducation/2017/01/09/ >> integrating-computer-science-in-math-the-potential-is- >> great-but-so-are-the-risks/ >> >> >> >> I get lost reading the referred blog post. I was >> under the impression that the ideas presented in the >> post were already fully discussed back in the 90's, >> when Mathematica was getting its way into the >> classroom at US schools. That things like "x = x + x" >> were already familiar to teachers. >> >> In fact, I was thinking of an open source alternative to Mathematica >> when writing the book on Prealgebra via Python Programming >> (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/325473565), with the >> advantage that Python can be used for intensive computing task as >> well as for symbolic (algebraic) computations (like mathematica) >> via SymPy. >> >> I was under the idea that the Mathematica team has already shaped and >> polished the road. I can see that I was wrong. It is still very, very >> rough (much more than the first draft of my book). >> >> Sergio >> >> >> > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Edu-sig mailing list >Edu-sig@python.org >https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig
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