This is why these guys are getting lost... openefs.org is nearly useless
for someone outside our team. The documentation we have links to is ALL
wrong and out of date. SM tells one of their guys to install the software,
and he does the logical thing -- goes to openefs.org and gets totally
misled.
This is really, completely, and totally embarassing. I need some help
with this, and I'd like to see if we can get some things changed in a hurry.
The entire "EFS Documentation" section is trash. All of it. The docs that
matter are the one's in the git repository, and there is not ONE SINGLE LINK
to them ANYWHERE. Is there a reason we can't just change the "Get the
documentation" link to, gee, I don't know..... point to the actual
documentation?
http://docs.openefs.org
may not look pretty, but it updates everytime we push a change via git. I
do NOT care how pretty it looks, I care about the content.
This website is NOT helping us right now. Absolutely none of us update it,
and it was all set up about a year ago and has grown totally static since
then.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Eberhard Hummel <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 2:42 PM
Subject: RE: Any progress on NFS in EC2?
To: Phillip Moore <[email protected]>
Cc: David Casper <[email protected]>, Anthony Skipper <
[email protected]>
The openefs website has a nice link on the top of the home page. “Read the
documentation”.. So I click on that. The subsequent instructions are:
“install openefs as you would any other piece of open source software”.
That’s it…nothing else. So, then I think ok, I’ll download the software and
read the readme. Nothing in there that was helpful either.
It was only by chance that someone forwarded me the doc repo git location.
Suggestion – pdf documentation available for download from the openefs
website.
Why wouldn’t you support nfs4? Its been out since 2006.
*From:* Phillip Moore [mailto:[email protected]]
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:20 AM
*To:* Eberhard Hummel
*Cc:* David Casper; Anthony Skipper
*Subject:* Re: Any progress on NFS in EC2?
If I sound frustrated here, it's because I am.
I spent an ENTIRE DAY with your team, basically sitting there, because none
of you bothered to read the pre-requisite documentation that I gave you. In
that document, I very clearly explain that the NFS mounts need to be named:
/vol/efs_dist
/vol/efs_dev_x_yyy
Where x_yyy is based on the name of the initial dev cell you will be
creating. Furthermore, those mounts must NOT be in /etc/fstab on the EFS
server, as they are not going to be mounted that way on the EFS server,
ever.
I also clearly document the specific UNIX users and groups that must be
created as well as several other things you have to setup before you attempt
this process.
The EFS software does not care what platform you run the database or NFS/NAS
server on. They just provide the database and file services to the EFS
server, so 32bit machines are fine.
However, the initial EFS machine MUST be a 64bit server. As I stated in
the previous mail, we do not have a pre-compiled 32bit /usr/efs tarball.
I have put a great deal of effort into documenting the bootstrap process,
and while I won't claim that the documentation is perfect, please let me
know where I went wrong.
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Eberhard Hummel <
[email protected]> wrote:
When you say bootstrap machine, is this machine going to be part of the efs
topology or is it just used to perform the configuration?
Right now, I have the following topology and want to make sure it is
supported before I go any further
Efs_db_node centos 5_x32 with mysql 5.1.67
Efs_nfs_node centos 5_x32 with two exports /mnt/mount1 and /mnt/mount2
Efs-server_node centos 5_x32 with the two mounts from above in /etc/fstab
-E
*From:* Phillip Moore [mailto:[email protected]]
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 15, 2010 9:39 AM
*To:* Eberhard Hummel
*Cc:* David Casper; Anthony Skipper
*Subject:* Re: Any progress on NFS in EC2?
Yes -- you can't do the initial bootstrap on a 32 bit machine (only because
I don't bother to create the bootstrap tarballs on the 32bit platforms).
The initial host on which you perform the bootstrap has to be x86-64.rhel.5.
ALL of our testing is done on 64 bit platforms, and while there's no reason
to assume that efsd won't work fine on 32bit, that's not how we've been
working.
The assumption here is that a real enterprise is going to be focused on
faster 64bit hardware, and we expect 32bit systems to be second class
citizens. Having said that, 32bit platforms are fully supported, and we
built all of our content for both 32/64.
It's just the initial bootstrapping that requires a 64bit host, and we also
recommend running efsd on a faster 64bit host, too.
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Eberhard Hummel <
[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Phil,
We're ready to begin a test installation of efs. This is the error I get
when running through the install according to the docs.
[r...@node Installation]# export
EFS_BOOTSTRAP_CONFIG=/root/efs-bootstrap.conf
[r...@node Installation]# cd /root/efs-core/
.git/ .gitignore source/
[r...@node Installation]# cd /root/efs-core/source/
[r...@node source]# PATH=/usr/efs/bin:$PATH
[r...@node source]# export PATH
[r...@node source]# ./util/efs_bootstrap_install
Building with prefix = /usr/efs
--11:48:39--
http://ftp.openefs.org/packages/bootstrap/x86-32.rhel.5/usr-efs-devel.tgz
Resolving ftp.openefs.org... 64.50.233.100, 64.50.236.52
Connecting to ftp.openefs.org|64.50.233.100|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
11:48:39 ERROR 404: Not Found.
Unable to download
http://ftp.openefs.org/packages/bootstrap/x86-32.rhel.5/usr-efs-devel.tgz
Am I missing something?
-Eberhard
-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony Skipper [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 2:51 PM
To: Phillip Moore
Cc: David A. Desrosiers; Eberhard Hummel; David Casper; Sy Smythe;
[email protected]
Subject: Re: Any progress on NFS in EC2?
Hey Phil,
Ok, lots happening finally. Eberhard, one lead platform engineer, found
us a good vmware build that fixes automount and already has NFS platform
scripts he built for another client, but he discovered we were missing the
equivalent ec2 image. He is in the process of recreating it using our build
tool.
We should have that done very shortly.(next day or so) will be ready to
re-engage with you by end of week.
Eberhard and Dave C. Are going to be the permanent engineers on this
platform offering.
On the business side we have gotten requests from a bunch of folks including
Duetsche Bank, UBS, and Barclays to provide and overview and demo of
OpenEfs. So the heat is turning up. As part of that work I'm going to
engage Derick Townsend to help put together a slide deck that we can use for
explaining the offering, benefits, etc. I'll brief him on our side, but
expect that he might have questions and come to you to answer them or review
the content we are creating.
If we don't talk sooner, let's at least plan for a call for all of us on
Monday just to make sure things are moving. Let me know what times work for
you guys.
This is going to be fun stuff, really looking forward to it.
Anthony
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 31, 2010, at 9:37 AM, Phillip Moore <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Anthony --
>
> Have you guys made any progress on getting NFS to work in the Amazon EC2
environment? Please let us know if there's anything we can do to help you
get the basic NFS infrastructure working, so that we can revisit getting an
EFS environment up and running for you.
>
> Also, if you'd like to try setting this up an alternate cloud/vm
infrastructure, let us know.
>
> We're basically waiting to hear from you guys at this point, to see what
you want to do next. In the meantime, we're making great progress on
content automation, so we're not exactly sitting still.
>
> Looking forward to getting your team onboard with EFS...
>
> Phil
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