Jon,

As long as your library session bean does not retain client
conversational state across method calls it is 'stateless' from the EJB
perspective. Stateless in the EJB sense means no client conversational
state. A stateless session bean may have bean state as long as any bean
instance can service any method call.

As you note, EJB does not require a server to recycle/pool stateless
sessions beans. My impression is that most servers will soon support
this optimization if they don't already. I wouldn't go to the trouble of
trying to work around those that do not.

-- Mark

Jon Dart wrote:
>
> I'm working on an EJB application that needs to instantiate a fairly large
> Java library (which does a bunch of complex and somewhat expensive
> operations on startup).
>
> I really only want to start up one copy of the library, or at most a few
> copies .. certainly not one per client. So I have tried making the client
> access a stateless session bean, and have that bean lookup and
> load a stateful session bean, that in turn loads the library.
>
> My reading of the EJB spec suggests that a stateless session bean
> can be reused to service multiple clients .. i.e., while only one client
> at a time is accessing it, it doesn't necessarily go through a remove/
> create cycle when the next client comes in. When the client does
> a remove(), the server can choose to keep the bean instance around
> for the next client, and not call its ejbRemove() method.
>
> If this were the actual behavior, then it seems that I would get the
> desired result. However, the J2EE reference server does not seem
> to recycle the stateless session bean in this way, nor does a
> commercial server I have tried (name withheld).
>
> Can I rely on this behavior? If not, would funnelling my library
> access through a custom resource manager (with some kind
> of pooled access to the external Java library) solve this problem?
>
> --Jon
>
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