Hi Krish
Yes I agree with you. But the question he is asking is that

why the use of transient fields is discouraged ??

Ashwani

----- Original Message -----
From: "Krishnan Subramanian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: Trade-offs between use of transient data and ejbPassivate


> Ashwani,
>
> Actually I believe transient fields are to be used when:
>
>  (a) The state (fields) being held by the bean is not
>      serializable (either regular Java serialization
>      or IIOP serialization or whatever custom serialization
>      a Container uses)
>  (b) The field(s) though serializable may only have a short
>      [valid] lifespan. In which case, you probably want to
>      re-initialize/validate them on every activation/passivation
>      cycle.
>
> -krish
>
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ashwani Kalra
> > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 2:29 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Trade-offs between use of transient data and ejbPassivate
> >
> >
> > hi,
> > ejb specification 1.1 says that use of transient fields is discouraged
> > refer page 52 of the pdf from Sun Microsystems
> >
> > When I last read it,  The reason may be that the application programmer
is
> > then reponsible for initializing those transient fields when ejbActivate
is
> > called.
> > Just check it in the ejbActivate method description.
> > There is nothing more to it
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Thanks
> > Ashwani Kalra
> > http://www.geocities.com/ashwani_kalra/
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> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Shailendra Mishra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 4:05 PM
> > Subject: Trade-offs between use of transient data and ejbPassivate
> >
> >
> > hi guys,
> >
> > could some one please point out the pros and cons of using transient
> > fields in session beans and how different is it from having
> > non-transient variables and writing the appropriate code in ejbActivate
> > and ejbPassivate to handle the serializable issue.
> >
> > ejb specification 1.1 says that use of transient fields is discouraged
> > refer page 52 of the pdf from Sun Microsystems.
> >
> > i am aware that making variables transinet would not persist the data
> > and hence would give some performance improvement. is there more to this
> > ?
> >
> > expecting ur reply
> >
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