No, I'm not taking anything personally, no problem man.

But it tickles me. A lot of people on the list have the access to the
books and the specs, yet they choose not to read them before they post
their responses. For instance, the part about static methods I copied
from the spec, well I found that in 30 seconds using Acrobat
Reader(free), the latest spec PDF(free) and the find function. The
reason I joined the list was to learn, and the only way I did so was by
reading and confirming my answers with the spec and thru the internet.
Getting answers that are woven out of your mind is GOOD, but you should
always check if somebody has asked the question before, and if there is
an answer. Don't mind giving somebody a partially wrong response; a
partially wrong response is better than no response. But if you don't
check throroughly first, you risk incorporating as fact something wrong.
The person "paying the cost" is finally yourself. I apologize for being
rude, I have no excuse for that-- maybe too much coffee, but that's
hardly your fault.

I hope you think carefully about what I have told you. I also hope that
my harsh, acid comebacks haven't diminished your desire to participate.
I'm sure debate helps everybody comprehend EJBs better. Remember, as a
rule of thumb, you should try to verify your info before you post. It
will benefit you, and nobody else. Also, altough the books (like
Richard's one, that's what you have, right?) are quite useful, they are
aimed begginer levels. That's why they have a dual purpose: to present
the technologies and to evangelize. The latter invariably pushes some
concepts as rule of thumb way too far(altough I wouldn't blame the
authors, the required leap in knowledge is quite large), promoting
useful patterns into golden calfs, the most recurrent case being Session
Facade. EJBs are, at the very core, pure Java. Many of the differences
between them and regular Java objects are transient at best, since one
of the main goals of J2EE itself is to provide a framework(including
classes, interfaces, best practices, etc.) in which coding business
objects is as easy as possible, making a larger number of developers
able to produce typically complex applications. This also is one of the
goals of other comparable, distributed computing technologies such as
MTS/COM+ and CORBA. Thinking about EJBs as a "hack" of regular Java
objects(or UML objects if you like) is the erroneous mindset to extract
the most of EJBs. EJBs are Java Objects. Think of them as regular Java
classes and interfaces leveraging a lot of standard services. It will
make your life easier and your productivity higher.

And again, my apologies for the tone, I have no excuse for that.

My 2c,

Juan Pablo Lorandi
Chief Software Architect
Code Foundry Ltd.
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Barberstown, Straffan, Co. Kildare, Ireland.
Tel: +353-1-6012050  Fax: +353-1-6012051
Mobile: +353-86-2157900
www.codefoundry.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 9:46 AM
> To: Juan Pablo Lorandi
> Subject: Re: ejb method signature-Why Cant EJB methods be
> static-Group Plz. Contribute
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> Thanks For Adding to my Knowledge.
> I Hope you wont take that Personally ,its just that you are
> making things clear
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