--- Joe Schell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dimitar Stavrakov wrote:
> >
> >
> > The functionality provided to you by the EJB
> container is time that you
> > cannot make up by a generator. Just think about
> connection pooling,
>
> This can be done without a EJB container.  There are
> a number of free
> and commercial implementations that do it.

The free and commercial implementations are all very
nice, but do search on the web for someone who knows
"Ernest Does Database Persistence 2.0  (EDDP2)" and
then compare that to the same for EJB. (Adjust for
people who actually really know what they say they
know.)

>
> > transaction management, etc.
>
> You have to be more specific. JDBC does
> transactions.
>

yes, but it does not do transaction management.

> > When you're using EJBs all these are ready for
> > you to use, without having to write a single line
> of code. You can't beat
> > that with straight JDBC coding.
>
> Using all of that functionality, especially the
> first time for each
> different container, takes a non-trivial amount of
> time to configure and
> tune.  There is probably an EJB container that
> provides easy and clear
> documentation that makes such chores a breeze.
> However I haven't seen
> it nor heard of it. (I spent a week one time trying
> to get a container
> set up to do connection pooling with a particular
> database and driver
> and I finally had to give up.)  That time also
> counts against the total
> time for coding any new implementations.
>
>

Ok, so instead of spending a non-trivial time
configuring a server that at least adheres to some or
all of a fairly straight forward spec, we will all
invest time learning some third party, non-standard,
BETTER DOCUMENTED java database framework ?

I hear you that some of these products are hard to
use, but that is because they are addressing a hard
problem and/or they just suck.

As always, please share any alternatives with this
list !

//Nicholas

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