That depends on however many nodes lose contact, but it's a possibility
that if you lose 2 of your nodes at once they will just stop responding and
the other 3 will be ok.
However you maintain cluster integrity.

Regards,
Mark Walkom

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Campaign Monitor
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On 14 January 2014 10:55, Mohit Anchlia <mohitanch...@gmail.com> wrote:

> How would the nodes on the other side of the network become master with
> the formula (total num of nodes / 2 + 1) one side will always become
> inaccessible?
>
> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Mark Walkom <ma...@campaignmonitor.com>wrote:
>
>> The logs shows that a node was not contactable and so was removed from
>> the cluster.
>> That could be a load issue on the node, network issues, or something
>> else. Check the logs on the node that disconnected and see what you find.
>>
>> If you leave the defaults, you risk the chance of a split-brain
>> situation, where nodes lose contact with each other and then decide to
>> become a master. This can cause you to end up with multiple masters in
>> multiple clusters, which is not good for data integrity.
>>
>> Setting the min masters means that if a node cannot contact N masters, it
>> will refuse connections.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mark Walkom
>>
>> Infrastructure Engineer
>> Campaign Monitor
>> email: ma...@campaignmonitor.com
>> web: www.campaignmonitor.com
>>
>>
>> On 14 January 2014 10:46, Mohit Anchlia <mohitanch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I am trying to understand why I should change it? This setting looks
>>> like the right setting in most cases. Did you see anything out of ordinary
>>> in that log message I pasted?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 3:40 PM, David Pilato <da...@pilato.fr> wrote:
>>>
>>>> No it's not the default setting.
>>>> min master node = total num of nodes / 2 + 1
>>>>
>>>> You have 5 nodes, 5 / 2 + 1 = 3
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> Le 14 janvier 2014 at 00:06:34, Mohit Anchlia 
>>>> (mohitanch...@gmail.com<//mohitanch...@gmail.com>)
>>>> a écrit:
>>>>
>>>> Is the default setting 3? How do I go about selecting right
>>>> configuration setting for this property?
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 3:01 PM, David Pilato <da...@pilato.fr> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  So I think you should first set minimum master node to 3. See
>>>>> http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/cluster-update-settings.html#_discovery
>>>>>
>>>>>  Probably you need to close your isolated node and restart it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> Le 13 janvier 2014 at 23:58:33, Mohit Anchlia 
>>>>> (mohitanch...@gmail.com<//mohitanch...@gmail.com>)
>>>>> a écrit:
>>>>>
>>>>>   I have 5 nodes. I am using all the default settings.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 2:32 PM, David Pilato <da...@pilato.fr> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  It sounds like a split brain issue or something.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  How many nodes do you have?
>>>>>>  Did you set minimum master node?
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 13 janvier 2014 at 22:48:32, Mohit Anchlia 
>>>>>> (mohitanch...@gmail.com<//mohitanch...@gmail.com>)
>>>>>> a écrit:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Thanks! It looks like one of the nodes even though it was up still
>>>>>> it went out of cluster. Is there no retry?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [2014-01-02 17:55:01,148][INFO ][cluster.service ] [10.80.140.14]
>>>>>> master {new 
>>>>>> [10.80.140.14][267foffDRhO6zzXlHg3YKA][inet[/10.80.140.14:9300]]{group=group1},
>>>>>> previous 
>>>>>> [10.80.140.59][YDHawZWnRUKukXDIIT5MJQ][inet[/10.80.140.59:9300]]{group=group2}},
>>>>>> removed 
>>>>>> {[10.80.140.59][YDHawZWnRUKukXDIIT5MJQ][inet[/10.80.140.59:9300]]{group=group2},},
>>>>>> reason: zen-disco-master_failed
>>>>>> ([10.80.140.59][YDHawZWnRUKukXDIIT5MJQ][inet[/10.80.140.59:9300
>>>>>> ]]{group=group2})
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [2014-01-02 17:55:02,158][INFO ][cluster.service ] [10.80.140.14]
>>>>>> removed 
>>>>>> {[10.80.140.13][6cf39fcASKSn6dNNsSXguA][inet[/10.80.140.13:9300]]{group=group2},},
>>>>>> reason:
>>>>>> zen-disco-node_failed([10.80.140.13][6cf39fcASKSn6dNNsSXguA][inet[/10.80.140.13:9300]]{group=group2}),
>>>>>> reason failed to ping, tried [3] times, each with maximum [30s] timeout
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 1:34 PM, David Pilato <da...@pilato.fr>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Yellow means that some replicas are not allocated.
>>>>>>>  If you have only one node and have index set with one replica
>>>>>>> (default), yellow is the expected state.
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> Le 13 janvier 2014 at 22:30:23, Mohit Anchlia (
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Cluster state is showing yellow. What's the best way to find why
>>>>>>> it's in yellow state?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It has been up and stable so far except when I looked today it shows
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