David,

On each machine on which either ES or a client is deployed, we have the 
following directory which contains all of the jars that are packaged with 
ES:

/opt/db/current/elasticsearch-1.3.4/lib
Then the java command's -classpath includes 
/opt/db/current/elasticsearch-1.3.4/lib/* (along with our own custom jars 
via /opt/db/lib/*) and everything works fine.

As for additional 3rd party jars, I have the following:

1. Jackson. The full library is used instead of the one inside ES.
2. Netty. This was needed for my own REST API which hides ES and contains 
the business logic. I couldn't figure out how to easily use the shaded 
version inside ES, and the "real" Netty is as easy to use as falling off a 
log.
3. The LMAX Disruptor .jar file. This thing combines nicely with Netty and 
wow! Netty and application thread counts remain low even under heavy loads.

Everything else I get directly from ES. And I love the way it shades its 
versions of Netty and Jackson so it's very easy for my own app to cherry 
pick what it wants from ES and what it prefers outside of ES.

We could use maven, I suppose, but we don't. Instead, we package all of the 
jars into a zip archive after our application is built against a specific 
ES version. And then that single self-contained zip archive is installed 
where it is needed. And there is no need for an external or internal maven 
repo. Not a big deal for us.

All in all, it's much like how Elasticsearch itself is packaged and 
distributed: A zip archive that I download from the web site. I would never 
use a .deb or .rpm since the version that I want is always on the web site. 
And I believe there is a maven repo but the .zip archive links are right on 
the web site, and we don't update all that often (regularly, but I don't 
thrash our deployment folks).

It sounds complicated, I suppose. But that was only once, and it's been 
easy to manage and develop against, easy to deploy, and makes me look very, 
very good to our deployment folks.

Brian

P.S. I don't use Guice or Spring. I don't see any problem with the new 
operator, and the services I create are fast, rock-solid, easy to configure 
and deploy, and that puts me light-years ahead of much of the pack. But 
this is another topic altogether! :-)

On Saturday, November 15, 2014 12:24:28 AM UTC-5, David Pilato wrote:
>
> Hi Brian,
>
> I think I'm missing something.
> At the end you still have the full elasticsearch jars, right?
> What is the difference with having that as a maven dependency?
>
> Is it a way for not getting all elasticsearch dependencies which are 
> shaded in elasticsearch jar such as Jackson, Guice,... ?
>
> David
>

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