Many thanks to all those who responded to my mail.

I was trying to find from those who were using the K2 VOX, their experiences, 
and see if they were similar to mine.  Without referring to individual mails 
the 
comments fell into these main categories.

a)  Use CW, don't use SSB, so don't use any VOX !
b)  Don't like VOX on any rig, preferring PTT operation.
c)  Use VOX sometimes, but prefer to the control of PTT.
d)  Mode control to select VOX clumsy.
e)  VOX OK when using headset.
f)   Background noises trigger VOX e.g Phones, Jets, Kids, Mother in Law etc. 
g)  VOX cuts off the first syllable of words.
h)  Low VOX sensitivity.
i)   No VOX gain adjustment.
j)   Lack of Anti-VOX.

I think that's covered most, but if I have missed your input please let me know.

Comparing the list with my experiences I found that I agree with most points.
I do not operate CW, and would like to use the VOX on the K2 more frequently.

In my experience the KSB2 board has the following deficiencies in the audio 
path:-

1)  Low input sensitivity. For some low output microphones there is 
insufficient 
audio input to the speech compressor U3 leading to a low RF output, and poor 
VOX 
operation. This sometimes results in the first syllable of a word being lost. 
External pre-amps may help, but this can lead to other VOX problems.

2) The VOX detection is derived from the speech compressor. Although in 
principle this seems like a good idea, however, it means that ANY signal from 
the microphone that is strong enough to activate the compression threshold will 
trigger the VOX. So the K2 VOX is very susceptible to background noises.
Most other rigs take the processed speech and VOX trigger signals through 
separate paths. That way you can have a good amount of speech processing and 
still get reliable VOX operation.

3)  Lack of individual adjustment of microphone and VOX gain.
The two adjustments should be independent for the above reasons.

4)  Lack of Anti-VOX. This to me is a real pain. It has put me off using the K2 
VOX more than anything else. I'm surprised that this did not get more mentions 
in the mail. It really fired me into sending the original mail.

Enough moaning !!!

To cut to the chase. I have spent some time thinking about the KSB2 problems 
and 
after much design work using a circuit simulator have come up with a solution 
to 
address items 1-4. This solution is at a breadboard stage at present (sitting 
next to my K2/100), and is working very well. Although it is far from complete 
I 
can give some brief details, so you might care to comment.

It will be a PCB that sits above the audio section of the KSB2, connecting via 
approx 6 short wires to the KSB2 PCB. It will require 1 track cut and 1 
component to be removed from  the KSB2 PCB.

It will have the following:-
a) An integral tailored microphone pre-amp with Mic gain adjustable from
 0 to +20dB. The input impedance will be 500 ohms.
b) An independently adjustable VOX gain control, driven from the microphone, 
and 
NOT the speech compressor output.
c) A fully adjustable Anti-VOX function that is derived from the speaker output.

As I said there is still some work to be done, but I will keep the group 
informed of my progress.

73

Stewart G3RXQ


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