In all fairness, I now see why the K3 behaves as it does, and that it's not a 
simple firmware mod to fix it.  KEY_OUT is derived from 7R, which switches all 
sorts of stuff between RX and TX mode.  If 7R were disabled in PTT RX mode, 
probably even the sidetone wouldn't work.  I don't even see a spare pin on the 
MCU chip that could be used to gate KEY_OUT. 

End of discussion, I think.

73,

Scott  K9MA
On Mar 11, 2011, at 3:26 PM, Scott Ellington wrote:

> Not necessarily.  The PTT Out line may control more than just the internal 
> amplifier relays.  For example, if one uses a separate receiving antenna, 
> there should be a relay which disconnects it from the receiver on transmit.  
> The amplifier output may also be switched by an external relay.  There might 
> even be a relay which terminates a shunt fed tower on receive, so it doesn't 
> re-radiate into the rx antennas.  So, there could be 3 relays switching. Even 
> if they're quiet ones, I'd rather they didn't in PTT rx mode.  
> 
> Perhaps there is a situation where it is desirable to do what the K3 does, 
> though it escapes me.  In any case, it would be nice to have the option of 
> turning it off in PTT mode.
> 
> Scott  K9MA
> 
> 
> On Mar 11, 2011, at 3:01 PM, JAMES ROGERS wrote:
> 
>> It seems to me that switching your amp to standby while doing your 
>> adjustments would solve the problem?
>> 
>> 73s Jim
>> On Mar 11, 2011, at 2:47 PM, Scott Ellington wrote:
>> 
>>> I think this is normal, and it's annoying.  I don't know of any other 
>>> transceiver that behaves this way.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> 
>>> Scott   K9MA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 11, 2011, at 2:40 PM, Sy Botan wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Most of my operating is on CW.  While staying in the CW receive mode I
>>>> operate the paddle to adjust speed and monitor level.  The transmit relay
>>>> activates and the amplifier relay also is activated.  Being in the CW
>>>> receive mode there is no RF output but the relay clanking is annoying.
>>>> Neither VOX or QSK is selected.  I tried to find some menu item that might
>>>> have an affect on the relay activation.  Did I overlook something or is 
>>>> this
>>>> normal?
>>>> 
>>>> Tnx de Sy K6PWP # 5223 (one week old)
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
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>>> Madison, Wisconsin
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>>> 
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>> JIM ROGERS, W4ATK
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>> K3/100 P3
>> K2/10
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> Scott Ellington
> Madison, Wisconsin
> USA
> 
> 
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