> I'm thinking of an up-to-date version of the Yaesu FT-936R

736, right?

One feature the FT736 has is full duplex cross-band, to support
satellite operation.  Is that something the VHF/UHF K3 should have also?

Al N1AL


On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 11:05 -0700, Lew Phelps K6LMP wrote:
> Here's another member of the group offering unsolicited product design
> ideas to Elecraft...which they surely don't need, but I know they
> welcome. 
> 
> My "big wish" product for Elecraft would be an adaptation of the K3
> with multiple slots for small-ish transverters to make a pure VHF/UHF
> rig.
> 
> I'm thinking of an up-to-date version of the Yaesu FT-936R, which was
> and still is very popular with the weak signal VHF/UHF crowd. It has
> four slots for band-specific modules. The rig came standard with
> modules for 6 meters and 2 meters installed, and two open slots that
> you could fill with 220, 440, and/or 1296 mHz modules. One could also
> remove the 6 meter module and use all four slots for vhf/uhf bands.
> Hams could buy the bare rig and as many or as few of the band modules
> as they wished (sort of a precursor of the K3 modularity, but more
> limited than Elecraft's offerings). Even today, with all the whiskers
> the 736 has grown over the years (and its mediocre sensitivity), the
> "scarce" 222 mHz and 1296 mHz modules fetch $400 to $800 on eBay.   
> 
> That, I think, indicates how much demand there is for a rig tailored
> specifically for the VHF/UHF contesting crowd, EME and satellite
> work.  
> 
> The 736 modules put out 25 watts except for 6 meters. Each band had
> its own antenna jack, facilitating attachment of amplifiers as desired
> with less band-switching complexity. 
> 
> I can envision a "K-4" line based on the K3, but with the inside
> reconfigured to accept transverter boards plugged into a mother board.
> If they could be engineered to output 16 watts, you could get 500
> watts out from a dedicated one-band amp with 15 dB gain. With 25 watts
> out, you could reach 800 with an amp.  The band-specific amps could go
> into a separate box or boxes, "plug and play" with the K-4.  That
> would create a great weak signal VHF/UHF setup! The K3 is a marvelous
> IF strip as it stands. This would make a more compact and
> purpose-specific rig than the K3 plus separate transverters, since you
> need a K3 plus a transverter plus a separate amp for each band to
> output 500 watts on any UHF band. 
> 
> To achieve this, you'd have to take over the space inside the existing
> K3 that's used by the internal HF amp and ATU, and maybe the space
> allocated for a second receiver (although a second receiver would be
> quite valuable for contesting purposes).I don't know how much
> re-engineering it would take to reduce the current line of
> transverters to a form factor that would fit inside the "K4".  You
> could also pick up space by making the "motherboard" a single-band 28
> mHz IF strip, plus capability for 6 meters and maybe 2 meters,
> depending on available space. 
> 
> The circuit board for the current Elecraft transverters has about 65
> square inches.  One could fit a "daughter board" into the K3 that
> would have about 25 or 30 square inches, so I think the existing
> transverter circuit design could be laid out on two  "back to back"
> circuit boards that would comprise a one-band module that would be
> about 2 inches thick; you could install at least four of such modules
> in the K3 form factor.
> 
> That's my 2 cents worth on the "next big idea" coming out of
> Watsonville.
> 
> 73
> 
> Lew K6LMP
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On May 25, 2011, at 9:29 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> 
> > We're leaving "hooks" in place for either a 2 m or 4 m transverter (or  
> > possibly both) in the KX3. It would be in the ~5W range, and would  
> > substitute for the optional ATU. If you needed both the transverter  
> > and an ATU, you'd need to use an external ATU such as the Elecraft T1,  
> > which can be band-switched and remotely tuned directly from the KX3.
> > 
> > 73,
> > Wayne
> > N6KR
> > 
> > On May 25, 2011, at 8:36 AM, Jens Petersen wrote:
> > 
> >> On Tue, 24 May 2011 14:24:00 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> The other thing that would be a huge selling point in Europe if it  
> >>> could be
> >>> designed in is support for the 4m band. There is no radio that  
> >>> covers 4m
> >>> apart from a couple of cheap Chinese FM handies.
> >> 
> >> Oh yes - Hilberling does:
> >> http://www.hilberling.de/bo/bo_pdf/pt-8k-2010_folder_a4a3.pdf
> >> 
> >> -- 
> >> OV1A Jens
> >> 
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