On Mt. Hood we just laid the antenna down on the talus and it worked  
fine.  I've done the same thing in New Mexico and in Oklahoma.  In OK it  
was not talus but sand on Black Butte.
    Kevin.  KD5ONS


On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 07:28:03 -0700, Phil Hystad <phys...@mac.com> wrote:

> This summer I plan to take my KX1 in my backpack on some of our summer  
> hikes in the Cascades.  Previously, I have only taken my HT but that is  
> not too bad from the 8000 foot level of Mt. Rainier.
>
> So, I am wondering about an antenna.  Part of the problem is that often  
> we are above the tree line.  No trees.  Has anyone operated in that  
> situation.  What do you do when there are no trees to use for elevating  
> a wire?
>
> Also, a slightly different question -- does anyone use a counterpoise of  
> any sort when using a single wire antenna?  Have you thrown another wire  
> along the ground to create a kind of ground plane or does this not make  
> that much difference.
>
> 73, phil, K7PEH
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