Ian,

If you have the "Extremely Strong Signal Handling" mod installed on your 
K2, the diodes will limit the signal at the input to the IF amplifier 
and you will not be able to do the 'saturated' tests.

It sounds like your K2 is working OK.  The AGC will make no difference 
in your readings until you progress to the output of the IF amplifier.  
So there are two things limiting its output - the limiting diodes and 
the AGC.

The signal tracing procedures have not been updated to consider the 
addition of diodes D40 and D41.  Lift one end of them if you wish to 
continue with the tests.

You may find that AGC action is keeping your K2 at lower than normal 
audio levels.  I would suggest lowering the DC voltage at CB U2 pin 5 to 
about 3.7 volts and re-doing the CAL S HI and CAL S LO parameters to see 
if that helps any.  You could lower it even more, but the S-meter 
alignment gets a bit strange if you go too far.  If your K2 is below SN 
3000, you do not have the AGC Threshold pot to adjust, but you can 
decrease the value of R1 to reduce the AGC Threshold voltage.

If you have an older K2, check the turns on T7 - the newer windings have 
20 turns of red wire and 5 turns of green.  Also check to be certain T7 
is not mounted backwards - the red winding connects to U12.

I would check the diode in your RF Probe, and also check the value of 
the series resistor.  Then check the specs for your DMM - the probe 
expects a DMM input resistance of 11 Megohms (note that most 'scopes 
have a 1 megohm input resistance, so the 'scope will not read the RF 
Probe DC output correctly).
Hint - the series resistor in the probe and the input resistance of the 
DMM form a voltage divider such that the conversion to RMS is done with 
the resistive values.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/19/2011 9:25 AM, Ian Liston-Smith wrote:
> In a quest to get to the bottom of my K2 not having enough volume (after 
> ascertaining the audio section is ok) I started upon the Signal Tracing 
> section of the manual, made up the Elecraft RF probe and even made the 10.000 
> MHz xtal oscillator - appendix E page 9. (Note: My K2 is not insensitive, 
> just barely adequate in volume. An extra audio amp would probably sort it 
> out, but at about $700 for the basic kit I shouldn't need to; in fact most 
> users DON'T need to so I guess there's something not quite right with my kit.)
>
> First 'issue': The RF probe doesn't come close to providing RMS readings on 
> my DMM. Three volts p-p of the 10MHz oscillator measured with 100MHz scope 
> (measured when connected to the K2 antenna input) input should give an RMS of 
> about 1.06 volts by my reckoning. DDM 'RMS' using probe reads 200 mV, 
> confirmed by connecting probe to DC-coupled scope. No good for recording the 
> 'actual' against the 'expected' measurements in the manual. Am I missing 
> something here?
>
> I decided to ditch the probe and use the scope and derive the RMS from the 
> peak-to-peak measurements.
>
> Mixer, IF Amplifiers and crystal Filter section Appendix E page 11
>
> Most readings were near enough to those in the manual until I got to "8: IF 
> saturated output" measurements. I could only get close to the figures with RF 
> max and AGC off otherwise no output at U11. Is AGC off for this test is 
> correct or do have I a fault? (Such a fault would surely make the K2 worse 
> than mine is...?) 2nd crystal filter output seemed ok, but product detector 
> saturated output (with oscillator output at max or set to give 0.15 Vrms as 
> in para 8?) had no significant gain.
>
> AGC tests also App E, page 11
>
> This was ok but I couldn't get the U2 pin 1 volts above 4.8V even after 
> peaking the tuning. It should be 6.9V but at what oscillator input level?
>
> Either I'm not interpreting the instructions here correctly (they seem a bit 
> vague regarding AGC on or off settings), my K2 is within the spread of 
> voltage tolerances or I have a fault, although seemingly not a serious one - 
> I don't know.
>
> I'm not going to do any more checks is case I am already 'barking up he wrong 
> tree'! So perhaps someone could clarify some of the tests or suggest other 
> checks.
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> Ian, G4JQT
>
>
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