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Today's Topics: 

1. Re: KPA500 - key down current on CW (David Ferrington, M0XDF) 
2. Soft case for KX3 (Phillip Shepard) 
3. Elecraft SSB Net results (11/27/11) (Edward R. Cole) 
4. Re: Soft case for KX3 (Jon K?re Hellan) 
5. Dust cover for the KX3 (Rose) 
6. Re: Dust cover for the KX3 (va3...@gmail.com) 
7. Re: KPA500 - key down current on CW (Roy Morris) 
8. K3 Matching Power Supply (KQ8M) 
9. KX3 cover... (John Ragle) 
10. Re: KPA500 - key down current on CW (Brian Alsop) 
11. Re: Dust cover for the KX3 (Fred Jensen) 
12. Re: KPA500 - key down current on CW (Roy Morris) 
13. Re: KX3 cover... (Fred Jensen) 
14. Re: KPA500 - key down current on CW (Ron D'Eau Claire) 
15. Can the K3 toggle between two power levels? (Mike Weir) 
16. Re: Can the K3 toggle between two power levels? (Nate Bargmann) 
17. Can the K3 toggle between two power levels? (Richard) 
18. 6m kw solid state amplifiers at an affordable price 
(Lance Collister, W7GJ) 
19. Re: K2 for Sale - K2/10 with most options (K7MDL) 
20. K3s on Malpelo (Tony Estep) 
21. [ot] rf from smart meters (Mike Rodgers) 
22. Re: [ot] rf from smart meters (Bob Cunnings) 
23. Re: K3 together with P3 and EXPERT 1k possible? (DL2FI. Peter) 
24. OT: Smart metering (Ken G Kopp) 
25. Re: [ot] rf from smart meters (Bill W4ZV) 
26. Re: [ot] rf from smart meters (John Ragle) 
27. Re: I?ve just found something incredible! (Dan Atchison) 
28. Re: [ot] rf from smart meters (Brian Alsop) 
29. QSK OFF (Paul VanOveren) 
30. Re: QSK OFF (Grant Youngman) 


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Message: 1 
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 17:03:03 +0000 
From: "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <m0...@alphadene.co.uk> 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 - key down current on CW 
To: Jim Sheldon <w...@cox.net> 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
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Thank you very much, just what I wanted to know. 
73 de M0XDF 
-- 
When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible he 
is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is 
very probably wrong. 
-Arthur C Clarke, science fiction writer (1917-2008) 

On 28 Nov 2011, at 16:36, Jim Sheldon wrote: 

> On my resonant Tribander with 1.2.1 SWR and the bargraph indicating 500W 
> output, mine pulls 11.9 amps with the HV measuring 62.5 volts for a drain 
> input power of 743.75 watts. The amp is being run on a mains voltage of 240. 
> Drive power from the K3 indicates 28 watts. 
> 
> Jim - W0EB 
> 
>> Purely as a matter of interest, how much current does the KPA500 
>> draw on CW key down? 
>> 73 de M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108, KX3 #???) 



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Message: 2 
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 09:25:43 -0800 
From: "Phillip Shepard" <ph...@riousa.com> 
Subject: [Elecraft] Soft case for KX3 
To: <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> 
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Does anyone know if Rose is making a padded, soft case for the KX3 that will 
protect it inside a backpack? 

73, 
Phil, NS7P 

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Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 8:26 AM 
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Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 and Pelican case? 


Good Day Everyone, 

Has anyone figured out which Pelican case will accommodate the KX3? 

Txn es 73 

John KK4BOB 

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Message: 3 
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 08:42:01 -0900 
From: "Edward R. Cole" <kl...@acsalaska.net> 
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net results (11/27/11) 
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
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In fact, Phil, my K3/10 probably qualifies as QRP full-time though I 
do get 16w out at max on 2m. I think you will notice the difference 
the first time I check-in at 300w ;-) Still haven't started work on that kit. 

My current interest is modifying and older DEMI 2m transverter to be 
ready for use with a KX3. 


73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 
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Message: 4 
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 20:44:49 +0100 
From: Jon K?re Hellan <hel...@acm.org> 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Soft case for KX3 
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On 11/28/2011 06:25 PM, Phillip Shepard wrote: 
> Does anyone know if Rose is making a padded, soft case for the KX3 that will 
> protect it inside a backpack? 

Will a soft case protect a tuning wheel inside a backpack? 

Jon LA4RT 

> 
> 73, 
> Phil, NS7P 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
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> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of John Flynn 
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 8:26 AM 
> To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
> Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 and Pelican case? 
> 
> 
> Good Day Everyone, 
> 
> Has anyone figured out which Pelican case will accommodate the KX3? 
> 
> Txn es 73 
> 
> John KK4BOB 
> 
> -- 
> John Flynn 
> Tallahassee, Florida 
> USA 
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Message: 5 
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 20:06:42 +0000 
From: Rose <elecraftcov...@gmail.com> 
Subject: [Elecraft] Dust cover for the KX3 
To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> 
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I've been working with Wayne at Elecraft on a dust cover for 
the KX3. Prototypes have been sent back and forth, and a 
design is almost finalized. 

The paddle assembly will be an option, and I'd like to know 
if there are those who would -not- purchase the paddles, and 
therefore would not want an opening in the cover for them. 

We'll address a potential padded case next. It's a complex 
issue, with many concepts of what "extras" might be added 
over and above the KX3. 

Stay tuned, and 

73! 

Rose - N7HKW 
elecraftcov...@gmail.com 


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Message: 6 
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 20:32:18 +0000 
From: va3...@gmail.com 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dust cover for the KX3 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
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I would not purchase the paddles. I want to use the money to purchase the 
battery pack etc instead 

73s 
------Original Message------ 
From: Rose 
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To: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: [Elecraft] Dust cover for the KX3 
Sent: Nov 28, 2011 15:06 

I've been working with Wayne at Elecraft on a dust cover for 
the KX3. Prototypes have been sent back and forth, and a 
design is almost finalized. 

The paddle assembly will be an option, and I'd like to know 
if there are those who would -not- purchase the paddles, and 
therefore would not want an opening in the cover for them. 

We'll address a potential padded case next. It's a complex 
issue, with many concepts of what "extras" might be added 
over and above the KX3. 

Stay tuned, and 

73! 

Rose - N7HKW 
elecraftcov...@gmail.com 
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Message: 7 
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 15:34:58 -0500 
From: "Roy Morris" <w4...@carolina.rr.com> 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 - key down current on CW 
To: <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> 
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My KPA500 is as follows: 
500 watts indicated on LEDs 
Current: 10.3 Amps at 500 watts indicated on LEDs 
Idling current: (key down - no modulation) 400 ma 
Voltage at 500 watts: 59.8v 
Power as indicated on display: 530 watts 
Power dialed in on K3: 39 watts 
Power source: 240v 
Freq: 3.781 Mhz 
SWR: 1:1 

Roy Morris W4WFB 


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Message: 8 
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 15:43:53 -0500 
From: "KQ8M" <k...@kq8m.com> 
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Matching Power Supply 
To: <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> 
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Is there any plans for a matching power supply for the K3? 



Thanks, 

Tim Herrick, KQ8M 

k...@kq8m.com 









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Message: 9 
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 15:43:51 -0500 
From: John Ragle <tpcj1...@crocker.com> 
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 cover... 
To: elecraftcov...@gmail.com, elecraft <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> 
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Rose... 

I have a couple of your K3 soft cases (happy with 'em!) and will 
want a carry-case of some sort for my putative KX3. I will definitely 
have the paddle "option," and would possibly want extra space for mic 
and for a small power supply and other stuff. Altogether, the space in 
the K3 carry-case looks about right, particularly if there were 
provision for a soft partition for internal padding. My alternative is a 
small pelican case with foam -- I don't plan on using the KX3 for 
backpacking (will be 79 when I get one--my backpacking days are in the 
past) but it would be nice to have a highly portable station for 
traveling... 

It seems to me that your cases are overkill for backpackers. I have 
done lots of same, and just wrapping something the size of the KX3 in a 
soft cloth in a nylon stuff sack was always absolutely fine -- I used to 
carry a SLR camera with several lenses in my backpack in this way and 
NEVER had the slightest problem. I have also carried a revolver (a 0.357 
with medium barrel) in a soft pack when in wild regions -- the soft pack 
was just a rectangle made of 2 layers of ripstop nylon with a thin sheet 
of foam stitched between and Velcro closures at the corners. I have 
forgotten what these are called, but they are standard in mountaineering 
stores. One put them on the hardware like a diaper. 

John Ragle -- W1ZI 

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Message: 10 
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 20:45:47 +0000 
From: Brian Alsop <als...@nc.rr.com> 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 - key down current on CW 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Message-ID: <4ed3f2fb.30...@nc.rr.com> 
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Hmm, this works out to an efficiency of 87%! 
Not sure I believe that. 

73 de Brian/K3KO 


On 11/28/2011 20:34, Roy Morris wrote: 
> My KPA500 is as follows: 
> 500 watts indicated on LEDs 
> Current: 10.3 Amps at 500 watts indicated on LEDs 
> Idling current: (key down - no modulation) 400 ma 
> Voltage at 500 watts: 59.8v 
> Power as indicated on display: 530 watts 
> Power dialed in on K3: 39 watts 
> Power source: 240v 
> Freq: 3.781 Mhz 
> SWR: 1:1 
> 
> Roy Morris W4WFB 
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Message: 11 
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 13:04:10 -0800 
From: Fred Jensen <k6...@foothill.net> 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dust cover for the KX3 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
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On 11/28/2011 12:06 PM, Rose wrote: 

> The paddle assembly will be an option, and I'd like to know 
> if there are those who would -not- purchase the paddles, and 
> therefore would not want an opening in the cover for them. 

I likely will not get a KX3 ... KX1 and K2 pretty much fill my needs ... 
but you never know :-) Were I to buy it, I would definitely have that 
neat little paddle. If I could get it separately for my KX1 I would in 
a heartbeat. 
> 
> We'll address a potential padded case next. It's a complex 
> issue, with many concepts of what "extras" might be added 
> over and above the KX3. 

I love my K2 case Rose made for me! I'd sure consider a KX1 case too if 
she had one, I'm using a generic "GPS Case" now and it fits poorly. It 
would be nice if the radio could be used without totally removing it 
from the case. I can do that with my K2 and case now, and I imagine it 
would be an advantage for the KX3 given it's flat profile. 

73, 

Fred K6DGW 
- Northern California Contest Club 
- CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012 
- www.cqp.org 


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Message: 12 
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 16:05:40 -0500 
From: "Roy Morris" <w4...@carolina.rr.com> 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 - key down current on CW 
To: <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> 
Message-ID: <9A0116508D714713938A0EA423DE3B63@W4WFB> 
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; 
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There is a 4 watt discrepancy between the 39 watts dialed in the K3 and the 
43 watts that is shown on my PowerMaster meter. The PowerMaster coupler is 
attached directly to the output of the K3 (using a double male connector) 
with a 5 foot length of RG8 coax to the input of the KPA500. The 
PowerMaster reading is probably more accurate than the dialed in power. 
This could be factored into the efficiency equation. 
Calibration of the K3 power is not linear. Roy Morris W4WFB 



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Message: 13 
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 13:19:38 -0800 
From: Fred Jensen <k6...@foothill.net> 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 cover... 
To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> 
Message-ID: <4ed3faea.3010...@foothill.net> 
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An alternative view from a 71 year old. I don't "backpack" in the usual 
sense, I have some orthopedic injuries from long ago, but I've become 
addicted to Summits On The Air and do make 1-2 mile "final ascents" to 
summits that have roads or good trails with a back pack. 

My "K2 Rose case" holds my K2, my LiFePO4 battery, my clipboard log with 
attached mini-paddle, a mic [I've branched out some into SSB summit 
activations too], my W1 wattmeter in a W8FGU case, ear buds, a tiny 
audio amp, and a couple of coax jumpers and adapters, and my Garmin 
GPS-III+. I put an EFHW jumpered wire antenna and W8FGU Z-match in too 
if I'm not using the Buddipole. 

All the "stuff" I need for the K2 is thus in the case or its external 
pockets, it's padded, it protects the front panel, and I can turn the K2 
90 degrees and use it inside the case in my lap. In its case, it fits 
snugly into the bottom of my pack, leaving room for water, food, gloves, 
and possibly an extra sweat shirt. 

Works super for me. YMMV. 

73, 

Fred K6DGW 
- Northern California Contest Club 
- CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012 
- www.cqp.org 

On 11/28/2011 12:43 PM, John Ragle wrote: 

> It seems to me that your cases are overkill for backpackers. I have 
> done lots of same, and just wrapping something the size of the KX3 in a 
> soft cloth in a nylon stuff sack was always absolutely fine 


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Message: 14 
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 13:58:27 -0800 
From: "Ron D'Eau Claire" <r...@cobi.biz> 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 - key down current on CW 
To: <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> 
Message-ID: <001501ccae18$dc4b1ce0$94e156a0$@biz> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" 

Like virtually all "fixed tune" or "no tune" rigs, the efficiency and so 
current demand varies widely with SWR since the output filters cannot be 
adjusted to compensate. (There was an advantage to "dipping the final" in 
the old rigs - it kept the efficiency up.) 

Also, the efficiency and so current demand will change from band to band. In 
general, the efficiency is lower on the higher frequency bands. 

Ron AC7AC 



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Message: 15 
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:50:04 -0500 
From: Mike Weir <ve3...@hotmail.com> 
Subject: [Elecraft] Can the K3 toggle between two power levels? 
To: <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> 
Message-ID: <blu162-w21fb08417807c12740ec7491...@phx.gbl> 
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Good evening, I was in the CQ WW CW contest this weekend and was operating at 
500mW's or QRPp level. There were times I had to pump the power up to 5 watts 
to make the contact, then bring the level back down to 500mW's. Is there a 
macro or other way to toggle the rig back and forth between the two (or more 
but don't want to get greedy) power levels? 
Mike 
VE3WDM 
http://ve3wdm.blogspot.com 


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Message: 16 
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 17:59:16 -0600 
From: Nate Bargmann <n...@n0nb.us> 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Can the K3 toggle between two power levels? 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Message-ID: <20111128235916.gp10...@n0nb.us> 
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* On 2011 28 Nov 17:50 -0600, Mike Weir wrote: 
> 
> Good evening, I was in the CQ WW CW contest this weekend and was operating at 
> 500mW's or QRPp level. There were times I had to pump the power up to 5 watts 
> to make the contact, then bring the level back down to 500mW's. Is there a 
> macro or other way to toggle the rig back and forth between the two (or more 
> but don't want to get greedy) power levels? 

I have macros programmed to PF1 and PF2 for 5W and 100W respectively. 
It's as easy as setting Macro 1 to 'PC005;' and Macro 2 to 'PC100;' with 
the K3 utility. 

73, de Nate N0NB >> 

-- 

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possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." 

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Message: 17 
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 16:28:30 -0800 
From: "Richard" <rdon...@dslextreme.com> 
Subject: [Elecraft] Can the K3 toggle between two power levels? 
To: <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> 
Message-ID: <3061EEFAE6E647DC8D56D84F35BC0170@URTOWERGARAGE> 
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Hi 
I just learned about macros myself. 
Try this- open the k3 utilitiy program and connect it to the k3 
Open the command tester tab. 
Click edit macros. 
In the labels give it a label maybe 5 for 5watts. 
In the command to right type in 005 or pc0051; 
I have not tried it so I am not sure which works. 
Click save. try the macro on the computer to see if it works on the k3 
If it works you can send these macros to the k3 
>From the help menu in the k3 utlity program: 
Macro assignment procedure overview 
a.. Start the K3 Utility. 
b.. Select the Command Tester/K3 Macros tab. 
c.. Click Edit Macros. 
d.. Enter a short (up to 7 character) label in one of the first eight Macro 
Label text boxes. This label will appear in the K3's VFO B display area when 
you invoke the macro. 
e.. Enter the sequence of K3 commands in the corresponding Macro Commands text 
box. You may use the Windows copy and paste functions to copy Macro Commands 
from source documents (such as the sample macros below) into the text boxes of 
the Edit Command Tester/K3 Macros dialog. 
f.. Click "Send Macros 1-8 to K3" to store the macros in your K3. 
g.. Leave the Edit Macros dialog by clicking Save or Cancel. 
h.. On the K3 front panel, hold CONFIG and adjust VFO B until the word "MACROS" 
appears in the VFO B area. 
i.. Tap 1-8 on the K3 numeric keypad to choose one of the 8 macros you wish to 
assign to a function switch. 
j.. Assign this macro to a function switch by holding PF1 or PF2, or tap or 
hold M1-M4. 
k.. Tap CONFIG to exit the menu. 
l.. Try out your macro execution by tapping or holding the assigned function 
switch. 


Maybe setup a macro 
try pc0051; or pc005; for 5watts 
try pc5000; for 500 milliwatts. 

This ought to do it bye Richard 
wa6kyr 


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Message: 18 
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 01:54:03 +0000 
From: "Lance Collister, W7GJ" <w...@q.com> 
Subject: [Elecraft] 6m kw solid state amplifiers at an affordable 
price 
To: Elecraft Mailing List <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>, 
f...@yahoogroups.com 
Message-ID: <4ed43b3b.8010...@q.com> 
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Hello 6m (or aspiring 6m) DXers! 

I have purchased a quantity of the Harris Platinum I Channel 2 amplifiers for 
the 
purpose of making them available at an affordable price to serious 6m operators 
- 
especially those in rare DXCC - who have been limited to "barefoot power". 10w 
input 
produces around a kw output on 6m, if you use one of the cheap HPS3KW switching 
50 
VDC power supplies. A pair can very easily provide 1500w output continuously if 
you 
use some high volume fans on the heat sinks. Details are on my website: 

http://www.bigskyspaces.com/w7gj/HarrisAmps.htm 

Please pass this information on to anyone you know who might be interested, 
especially those in rare DXCC ;-) CU on 6m EME! MNI TNX and GL! 

VY 73, Lance 

-- 
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(ex WA3GPL, WA1JXN, WA1JXN/C6A, ZF2OC/ZF8, E51SIX, 3D2LR, 5W0GJ) 
P.O. Box 73 
Frenchtown, MT 59834-0073 
USA 
TEL: (406) 626-5728 
QTH: DN27ub 
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Message: 19 
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:58:12 -0800 (PST) 
From: K7MDL <k7...@hotmail.com> 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 for Sale - K2/10 with most options 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
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Went through my documents and can describe more completely the mods, some of 
which I had forgotten. Maybe useful as a list for others. Also below is 
detail on my XV144 I had mentioned. 

ELecraft modules: 
K2/10 10W QRP Rig 
KSB2 SSB Module 
K160RX 2nd RX ant + 160Meter band 
K60XV Xverter+60M band 
KNB2 Noise Blanker 
KAF2 Audio Filter 
KAT2 internal ATU 
KIO2 Serial IO Module 
KBT2-X (no battery included) 

Mods: 
600Hz CW tuning indication on S-meter bargraph board 
FT-100 tuning Knob. I also have the original knob. 
10meter Bandpass Filter and VFO/ALC mod 
K2 BFO toroid and PLL Ref Osc Xtal Upgrade 
Temperature Compensated PLL reference upgrade 
Latest firmware 2.04P 
2nd Xfil flattening mod (with paperwork) 
KI6WX first crystal grounding and CW filter rejection mod. 
Elecraft A to Rev B upgrade 
Front end diodes for protection against extremely strong signals 

I received questions about my XV144 transverter. My plan is to sell it with 
the K2 for a bundle as long as there is interest. If the K2 sells 
standalone, I will then sell the XV144, but not before. Asking $375 OBO 
shipped in US. Will supply 2 RG316/U teflon BNC IF cables and serial cable 
and ~13" power cord. This has the crystal oven it. I will update this 
thread with the results either way. Once the K2 is sold I am ready to 
order a K3 :-). 

- Mike, K7MDL 

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Message: 20 
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 23:20:24 -0600 
From: Tony Estep <estept...@gmail.com> 
Subject: [Elecraft] K3s on Malpelo 
To: Elecraft <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> 
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My DX club newsletter reports that the HK0NA expedition will put Malpelo on 
the air some time around Jan 24, 2012. The expedition will feature K3s and 
KPA500s on all bands. I don't have actual data, but it seems that of all 
the DXpeditions that I've worked this year, half the radios have been 
Elecrafts. There was just one (now I can't remember which) that featured 
two K2-100s. Those of us who use an Elecraft radio for DXing from the 
safety and comfort of the home shack find it hard to imagine toting any 
other radio on a DXpedition. 

73, 
Tony KT0NY 


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Message: 21 
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 00:30:54 -0600 
From: Mike Rodgers <mikerodgerske5...@yahoo.com> 
Subject: [Elecraft] [ot] rf from smart meters 
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Cc: elecraft...@yahoogroups.com 
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Hi Gang, my utility is about to roll out smart meters and it occured to me will 
it generate rf on hf? It will be 6' from shack. Anyone pulling their hair out 
over smart meters? I hope not. 

73 
Mike R 

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Message: 22 
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 00:20:09 -0700 
From: Bob Cunnings <bob.cunni...@gmail.com> 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [ot] rf from smart meters 
To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> 
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Here's some info from the ARRL regarding smart meters: 

http://www.arrl.org/smart-meters 

Bob NW8L 

>Hi Gang, my utility is about to roll out smart meters and it occured to me 
>will 
>it generate rf on hf? It will be 6' from shack. Anyone pulling their hair out 
>over smart meters? I hope not. 
> 
>73 
>Mike R 


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Message: 23 
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 09:49:48 +0100 
From: "DL2FI. Peter" <qrpl...@dlqrpag.de> 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 together with P3 and EXPERT 1k possible? 
To: "'Stewart'" <stew...@twinwood.me>, "'Phil & Debbie Salas'" 
<dpsa...@tx.rr.com>, <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> 
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Thank you Phil and Stewart, this helps a lot 

73 de Peter, DL2FI 


> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- 
> Von: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft- 
> boun...@mailman.qth.net] Im Auftrag von Stewart 
> Gesendet: Montag, 28. November 2011 14:27 
> An: Phil & Debbie Salas; elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
> Betreff: Re: [Elecraft] K3 together with P3 and EXPERT 1k possible? 
> 
> This is the way I have my K3/P3 combination connected to the 1k-FA, and 
> it 
> works well. 
> 
> Stewart G3RXQ 
> On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 07:00:26 -0600, Phil & Debbie Salas wrote: 
> > The SPE Expert has the standard BCD band data interface as well. You 
> can 
> > just feed the band data outputs of the K3 to the SPE Expert and not 
> even use 
> > the RS232 interface. 
> > 
> > Phil - AD5X 
> > 
> > "Good morning all. I have seen some postings of EXPERT 1k users here 
> on the 
> > reflector, I need 
> > your help. A friend has a K3 and a P3. Now he wants to connect his 
> EXPERT 
> > PA to this 
> > combo. The problem: The K3 RS232 is occupied by the cable to P3, both 
> P3 
> > RS232 are occupied by Cables to k3 and PC. Because he wants to use 
> the 
> > Expert with different Antennas on different bands, he wants the K3 to 
> tell 
> > the EXPERT on which band it should work. But how? I personally have a 
> > K3/P3/KPA500, so I can?t try to find a solution. Peter, DL2FI" 
> > 
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Message: 24 
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 11:58:23 +0000 
From: Ken G Kopp <kengk...@gmail.com> 
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Smart metering 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
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I'm a retired electric utility communications technician. "My" 
utility has used smart meter technology to read meters for a 
number of years. My gas and electric meters are on the outside 
wall of my shack and I've not been aware of any problem, either 
to or from the meters. 

There are a number of methods in use to read meters, but in 
the case here, a meter reader drives a vehicle along the road, 
"pinging" meters via UHF radio to collect data that is used to 
compute the monthly billing. 

See: https://www.itron.com/Pages/default.aspx for more. 
Itron is a large provider of smart meter technology located 
in Spokane, WA. 

Trivia: The extensive information on the ARRL site ignores ... 
or the writer isn't aware ... that PLC / "carrier current" is widely 
used, and has been for decades. It uses frequencies in the 50 
to 400 kHz range and often spans hundreds of miles for control 
between switch yards, control centers, etc. The typical power 
levels are in the 10 watt range, but can switch to several hundred 
watts to force a signal through the line noise of a switching event. 
Large RF chokes, several feet in diameter, used to keep PLC 
signals off lines where they aren't used, can be seen suspended 
many switch yards and sub-stations. 

My utility initially used surplus WWII Navy TBL/TBK and RBK/RBK 
equipment for PLC, and many years ago I bought a RBL receiver 
still in the crate when the company disposed of this old equipment. 

To directly answer the initial question of interference from smart 
meters, I'm not aware of any ... in our case, at least. 

73! 
Ken Kopp - K0PP 


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Message: 25 
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 05:45:13 -0800 (PST) 
From: Bill W4ZV <btipp...@alum.mit.edu> 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [ot] rf from smart meters 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
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Mike Rodgers wrote 
> 
> Hi Gang, my utility is about to roll out smart meters and it occured to me 
> will it generate rf on hf? It will be 6' from shack. Anyone pulling their 
> hair out over smart meters? I hope not. 
> 

Not a trace at my very quiet location...and I have good antennas on both 160 
and 10. Hope it's the same for you! 

73, Bill 


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Message: 26 
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 08:53:40 -0500 
From: John Ragle <tpcj1...@crocker.com> 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [ot] rf from smart meters 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
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At risk of prolonging this thread, I also live in a very quiet location. 
The "smart meter" is about 20 feet from the shack (60 feet from nearest 
antenna), has been there for at least 10 years, and there is not a trace 
of RFI from it that I recognize as such. 

John Ragle -- W1ZI 

===== 

On 11/29/2011 8:45 AM, Bill W4ZV wrote: 
> Mike Rodgers wrote 
>> Hi Gang, my utility is about to roll out smart meters and it occured to me 
>> will it generate rf on hf? It will be 6' from shack. Anyone pulling their 
>> hair out over smart meters? I hope not. 
>> 
> Not a trace at my very quiet location...and I have good antennas on both 160 
> and 10. Hope it's the same for you! 
> 
> 73, Bill 
> 
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Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 09:21:04 -0500 (EST) 
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Message: 28 
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 14:32:18 +0000 
From: Brian Alsop <als...@nc.rr.com> 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [ot] rf from smart meters 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
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Guys, 

How are we defining smart meters? There appear to be a class which only 
can be read remotely. Then there appears to be a class which have the 
ability to control various house heavy current devices (e.g. heat 
pumps). For all I know the may be only one meter with the ability to 
connect "smart grid" controls. 

I'd guess that these two might have different RFI generating properties 
after the connections to the various devices being controlled is made. 
I think of the complaints posted on various reflectors complaining about 
the RFI produced by new washing machines and heat pumps. 

The new meter installed here by Progress Energy (remote reading only 
implemented). They are trying to get people to sign up for the ones 
which control the heat pump. They are offering customers a measily 
$25/year credit for connecting the heat pump control option. Apparently 
the sign up rate for this has been underwhelming. I have not signed up 
for our all electric house. We currently have no time of day rates for 
consumers. 

This quote related to PG&E smart meter backlash is consistent with my 
thinking. 

>The only real way for these meters to reduce the overall cost of 
electricity is to make it higher priced during times when you need it - 
so your showers, your computer, the stay at home moms, the elderly, the 
unemployed will all pay more for using electricity during the day time. 
There is no "additional cost" associated with not having a smart meter. 
(unless you are assuming mandatory curtailments of the availability of 
electricity through these meters). -- by the way, who do you suppose 
pays for the costs of electricity while you all are enjoying smart 
meters at home -- your employer/a business who cannot reduce usage very 
much during the day (that's when you are working, using the employer's 
electricity and reading stuff like this online) and therefore pays 
higher rates. I am not opposed to smart meters but to suggest that some 
who don't want them will be penalized is totally wrong. Smart meters 
represent a shift of risk to the businesses and to the stay at home 
folks - your "savings" are on the backs of entities who are stuck paying 
the higher rates and cannot reduce consumption beyond a certain point. 
Everyone wants to support the concept but few have considered the social 
and economic implications - something that this publication could do -- 
they are great for the utilities but the benefits for the public are 
still unknown. 

PG&E wants the consumer to pay about $200/year to opt out of a smart meter. 

Ten California counties have even outlawed them. 

http://ppjg.wordpress.com/2011/07/18/banning-smart-meters/ 

73 de Brian/K3KO 


On 11/29/2011 13:53, John Ragle wrote: 
> At risk of prolonging this thread, I also live in a very quiet 
> location. The "smart meter" is about 20 feet from the shack (60 feet 
> from nearest antenna), has been there for at least 10 years, and 
> there is not a trace of RFI from it that I recognize as such. 
> 
> John Ragle -- W1ZI 
> 
> ===== 
> 
> On 11/29/2011 8:45 AM, Bill W4ZV wrote: 
>> Mike Rodgers wrote 
>>> Hi Gang, my utility is about to roll out smart meters and it 
>>> occured to me will it generate rf on hf? It will be 6' from 
>>> shack. Anyone pulling their hair out over smart meters? I hope 
>>> not. 
>>> 
>> Not a trace at my very quiet location...and I have good antennas on 
>> both 160 and 10. Hope it's the same for you! 
>> 
>> 73, Bill 
>> 
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Message: 29 
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 11:39:41 -0500 
From: "Paul VanOveren" <p...@nf8j.com> 
Subject: [Elecraft] QSK OFF 
To: "elecraft reflector" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> 
Message-ID: <F6745BBFCDCB490BA3A1D0C0D2F56B28@nf8jHP> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" 

Is there a way to shut off QSK in CW mode? I only find SEMI or FULL.... 

NF8J 


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Message: 30 
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 10:51:27 -0600 
From: Grant Youngman <n...@tx.rr.com> 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QSK OFF 
To: Paul VanOveren <p...@nf8j.com> 
Cc: elecraft reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> 
Message-ID: <544b0485-3243-4abd-b682-36678c09d...@tx.rr.com> 
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SEMI 

Sent from my iPhone 

On Nov 29, 2011, at 10:39 AM, "Paul VanOveren" <p...@nf8j.com> wrote: 

> Is there a way to shut off QSK in CW mode? I only find SEMI or FULL.... 
> 
> NF8J 
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