Ron, RS-232 serial interface has been defined for at least 25 years and its 
functions are well known and stable so the radio software and hardware 
producers can design to these specifications.  The converters are designed to 
emulate the portion of these functions that the designers feel are needed, but 
do not conform to any IEEE standard so that other manufacturers can depend on 
their function.  RS-232 is coded and decoded by hardware, so it is stable.  USB 
converters are coded by some software and some hardware and are decoded by the 
RS-232 receiver.  The software portion is somewhat different for the different 
operating systems.  It takes a while after a new operating system is 
implemented for the converter writers to get it right.  FTDI and Prolific are 
two companies who write software and sell chips for USB converters.  Lots of 
people buy chips from these two companies and mold them into connector/cable 
assemblies and then retail them under
 various brands.  It is not real easy to find out which chips have been used 
and often the end brand does not identify the chip used.  Both of them work OK 
with most printers, scanners and other serial connected computer stuff, but it 
can be a different story with ham radio stuff where sometimes more is demanded 
and RS-232 compliance is usually assumed.  FTDI seems to do a better job than 
Prolific, but you have to try the software/hardware combination before you 
know.  I had a lot of trouble when I bought a Win7 computer a couple of years 
ago and endured some real rude comments from the computer crowd when trying to 
figure out the combination.  I bought a RS-232 card for my computer and have 
not had trouble since.  I suspect that the problems with USB converters has 
been worked out in the two years so that things work better now.  My USB 
converter that I bought with my K3 in 2007 worked well with the Elecraft 
software, but not with my loggers.  I
 understand that the older converters were Prolific and that Elecraft now 
supplies FTDI, or at least something that will work.  The cards work well with 
desk top computers, but are not so easy with lap tops that have only USB.  The 
computer world is trying to get away from RS-232 in favor of USB, but the ham 
radio community does not want to throw away perfectly good hardware every four 
or five years like the computer world is geared to do.  Also, ham radio 
operators expect to know how everything works, computer people not so much.
 
Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ & Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart


________________________________
 From: roncasa <ronc...@verizon.net>
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] serial to USB
 
It really begs the question for some us who do not understand or are not 
computer geeks:

what IS the difference between FTDI and Prolific.

We understand each one behaving (responding) differently with software 
to radio control, and that some don't work at all, I do not understand 
what makes one preferred over the other (such as elecraft serial/usb 
adaptor cable)
Prolific also works with most stuff too.
For example, are they "platform" related? (micr0$oft)
Is this akin to "ordinary" DVD player as opposed to a "blue ray" player 
that can play "both"??

72
Ron, wb1hga
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