Walking up an 18m Spiderpole is ok as long as you have side guys in place 
plus front guys (ie the ones behind you as you walk) plus the facility to 
shorten the back guys as you walk.  This needs another person - or a pulley 
at the bottom of the back guys if you are doing it on your own. Doing it 
single handed, I find it much easier to use a 20ft gin pole.

73 to all

Geoff
G3UCK

-----Original Message----- 
From: Igor Sokolov
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 3:21 PM
To: David Cutter ; Jon Kåre Hellan ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Portable antennas for use in UK

David,
I use both 12m and 18m Spider poles. 12m one is pretty easy and could be
pushed up vertically.
18m pole requires different technique, well described by the series of
pictures here
http://www.spiderbeam.com/product_info.php?info=p71_Spiderbeam%2018m%20fiberglass%20pole.html

73, Igor UA9CDC

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Cutter" <d.cut...@ntlworld.com>
To: "Jon Kåre Hellan" <hel...@acm.org>; <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Portable antennas for use in UK


Hi Jon

I tried a Hams4Hams 18m pole and I am not strong enough to push it up
vertically.  The Spider pole is even heavier, how do you extend the Spider
pole?

73

David
G3UNA

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jon Kåre Hellan" <hel...@acm.org>
To: <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Portable antennas for use in UK
>
> You could get a 12m telescopic fiberglass pole from Spiderbeam and use
> whatever wire antenna you want with it. Use it as a center support for
> an inv vee or for a wire vertical. My own crazy balcony antenna is a
> full size vertical for 40m with two radials, can be erected or taken
> down in less than a minute. http://www.ha19.no/la4rt/balcony.jpg. The K3
> tuner is able to tune it on all bands from 80m to 6m, that's when I'm
> lazy. It's also easy to take it down and put up an antenna cut for a
> different band, if you worry about loss or want to use an amp. I
> understand that the tuner in the KX3 is just as versatile as the one in
> the K3.
>
> Used as a support for an inv vee, don't use the top two or three
> sections. They're too flimsy.
>
> 73
> Jon LA4RT
>
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