Yep. AFAIK it was Telex (land-line based hard copy texting between terminals for businesses) that added lower case letters to the keyboard.
73 Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mark Petiford Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 2:36 PM To: k...@att.net; Richard Fjeld Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Carriage Return in SVGA text messages? Re: <But what really baffles me is that I can not get it out of CAPS and I've been accused or shouting and just being rude.> That shows you that the folks who complain the most usually know the least! Long time ago...going from memory here: No small letters were available. Up through the Model 19, everything used Baudot code which only had caps. RTTY was the same way in those days. Figures key put the TX and RX TTY's into Figures mode (numbers, punctuation, etc.), LTR key put them into letters mode. Figures and letters key was always sent twice just in case the first one didn't decode properly...or at least the letters key was. That way you didn't leave the other guy in the opposite mode. Nothing worse than being in figures when the other guy was sending letters! ASCII came later with Caps and small letters, and no FGS or LTR keys. Model 23 sent ascii. I don't think it was compatible with our earlier TTY's. I never had a model 23. Went straight to rudimentary computer code/decode instead. Converted my homebrew terminal so it could talk to my computer (expanded Cosmac Elf with tiny display and keyboard...google it...wish I still had it). Nothing like today, though. I THINK that gave me the option to use ASCII, but can't remember for sure. MARK<cr><lf> KE<fgs><fgs>6<ltrs><ltrs>BB<cr><cr><lf><lf> ________________________________ From: Bob <k...@att.net> To: Richard Fjeld <rpfj...@embarqmail.com> Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2013 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Carriage Return in SVGA text messages? Hi Dick, Yes, that was a recent discovery. It is hidden under the FIGS and N keys. But what really baffles me is that I can not get it out of CAPS and I've been accused or shouting and just being rude. I guess I don't have enough time on the GREEN KEYS to have learned all the subtleties yet. 73, Bob K2TK On 7/6/2013 2:36 PM, Richard Fjeld wrote: > Bob, > Have you found a comma on the model 15 yet? > > Dick, n0ce > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bob > To: n...@n5ge.com ; Elecraft Reflector > Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 1:22 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Carriage Return in SVGA text messages? > > > Well my still operational Model 15 needs it as it does not have the >Carriage > Return (CR) option installed. Just for fun and demonstrations I fire it up. > Driven from a Timewave 59Y. No way to get Baudot out from the K3 & P3. > > Many do not send it any more and it the Model 15 just sits there >piling up ink > at the end of a line. And please do not forget to send the line >feed (LF) > character too as it needs it or it will print over the last line. TNX! > > So the term is before computers and not from computer programmers, >it is a > historical reference to the original TTY. > > 73, > Bob > K2TK ex KN2TKR (1956) & K2TKR > > > > On 7/6/2013 2:01 PM, Tom H Childers wrote: > > Hit the ENTER key. I don't know why any one would refer to it as >a > > carriage return unless they were a computer programmer ;o) > > > > 73, > > Tom > > Amateur Radio Operator N5GE > > Licensed since 1976 > > ARRL Lifetime Member > > QCWA Lifetime Member > > > > On Sat, 6 Jul 2013 13:48:47 -0400, Tim cook <n...@woh.rr.com> wrote: > > > >> Maybe I'm missing the really obvious, but how do I insert a carriage return when creating or editing a text message for the SVGA option? I can't find references to it anywhere. > >> > >> Thanks > >> Tim > >> NZ8J > >> > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
