Just FYI, I got the Elecraft 100W amp in two or three weeks ago. At over $ 1100 it better beat these other amps. It has a tuner but I also have the ATU in the KX3 and two more discrete ATU's for higher power, balanced (PAL) , etc.
Have you tried the Elecraft amp yet ? Bill Haden KF5TEU From: Igor Sokolov-2 [via Elecraft] [mailto:ml-node+s365791n7576093...@n2.nabble.com] Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 11:56 AM To: KF5TEU Subject: Re: KX3 Amp Another correction. HLA 300 (and probably 150) have RF sensing PTT and automatic band switching. They also have decent IMD is not driven to full output power. HLA 300 is about 25-30 db IMD when driven to 150-200 watts (5-7watt input) and cost under 500 USD. No antenna tuner though. 73, Igor UA9CDC ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Marvin" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Amp > One correction. The HF Packer is not a 50w amp. It's about 45w at 160m, > and then steadily less as you go up in frequency (40w for 80m, 35w for > 40-20m, 30w for 17/15m, 25w for 12m and about 20w for 10m). It doesn't > support 6m. These numbers come directly from a graph in the HF Packer > manual. > > John > AC0ZG > > On 6/30/2013 10:18 PM, Ariel Jacala wrote: >> Hands down the KXPA100. It isn't out yet - shipping in August but offers >> the greatest flexibility with a tuner and portability. The Hardrock is >> ~$260. It is only available to members of the Yahoo group right now. It >> is 160-6m and generates a solid 50w from 160-10, less on 6m. I own a >> Hardrock and it was a difficult build but Jim Veatch helped me out a >> lot - WA2EUJ. No tuner though so you will have to invest in a ZL100 or >> equivalent. The Elecraft tuner is faster and tunes a wider range. Size >> wise is only slightly smaller than the Elecraft 4 1/8 wide and tall by 7 >> deep. The TenTec is a larger amp - $800 plus a 100w tuner. The THP >> HL45B is a solid performer at about $450 from HRO. Again you need an >> outboard tuner. You have to manually switch bands. If you don't it will >> go on standby - a self protective feature. I played with a THP for a >> while and it works well. You can get one used - not easy - for about >> $250-$300. There are the RM Italy variants - beware do > no >> t overdrive - IMD artifacts - HL300B is the model - only drive to >> 100W - I have no experience with this amp. These are not certified by the >> FCC. Some people have had great luck with the Juma 100w amp and some on >> the reflector may have owned one or built one. The Jumas can be >> programmed to band switch with the rig. Again - it needs an external >> 100w tuner. >> >> So here are your choices: >> >> Juma 100w - no tuner - band switches with rig automatic - FCC certified >> Hardrock 50w - no tuner - manual switching - not FCC certified >> TenTec - 100w - no tuner - band switching with rig automatic >> HFPacker - 50w - manual swiching >> KXPA100 - 100w - tuner - automatic band switching - FCC certified >> THP HL45B - 45w - no tuner - manual switching (except for FT817) - FCC >> certified >> THP HL100B - 10w - no tuner - manual switching - not FCC certified >> RM Italy HL150 - 150w - no tuner - manual switching? not FCC certified >> RM Italy HL300B = 300w - no tuner - manual switching? not FCC cerified >> >> Antennas >> Too many to list >> Personal favorites - G0GSF- multiband dipole - 4 bands are OK w/o a >> tuner, EFHW - cut to 45 ft with EARCI matchbox KX3 tuner will match >> 80-10m >> Ariel NY4G >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Jun 30, 2013, at 11:39 PM, "KF5TEU" <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >>> While all these posts have good advice for a bc trip , I really just >>> want the KX3 amplifier. I have the other items already ( Delorme GPS >>> plus SPOT with rescue insurance paid up, sat. phone rented , several 2M >>> HT's ( APRS godd idea , I'll add that ) and the usual flares , panels , >>> noisemakers and things that go bang ) . >>> >>> >>> But...I need an amplifier and the right antennas to add to this. >>> We will be doing the check in via SPOT , sat. AND am. band. >>> SPOT loses lock in jungle and mountain ,vso do sat. phones and GPS. >>> Certain unfriendlies like to jam their freq's as well. >>> In addition to that any or all that gear can be broken , lost or >>> confiscated by certain sticky fingered locals ( it.s happened ). >>> Hard to jam 6M-160M all the time though. >>> I am not "shouting in the dark" for rescue. We have several pre-planned >>> operators standing by with preplanned times and frequencies and backup >>> frequencies. >>> But, they are also mobile or may have interference so I want the best >>> chance at a clear signal both ways. >>> There are no repeaters out there. >>> This is in Africa. >>> >>> Please , any KX3 amplifier advice ? >>> Ten-Tec , Hardrock , etc. , which specific models with setup/operating >>> tips ? >>> Greatly appreciated ! >>> >>> Bill"ny4g [via Elecraft]" <[hidden email]> >>> wrote:Some HT's have GPS and with APRS one can send messages. I have >>> used it on hikes so my wife can track me on the internet as I hike. The >>> HT sends a beacon signal out and the movement can be tracked through >>> APRS.fi Any Ham can get an APRS account. I have even used APRS on >>> my iPhone for the same tracking capability. Remote from civilization >>> though you would need an HT with APRS like the VX8R by Yaesu or a >>> TinyTrack tracker. With the HT however, you can call for help and the >>> reach can be substantial depending on elevation or having a nearby >>> repeater. Having worked 45 states on Field Day just using a KX3 and a >>> G0GSF dipole, I have no qualms with getting out and reaching people with >>> a KX3 on HF. When the 2m module gets out - I have a complete package >>> for all modes of remote operation. >>> Ariel NY4G >>> >>>> From: [hidden email] >>>> To: [hidden email] >>>> Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 19:51:08 -0400 >>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Amp >>>> >>>> That's what I'd do as well. Some personal locators will send an "I'm >>>> OK" message, too to designated recipients. And, if you don't want to >>>> buy a personal locator... you can rent them, which might be less >>>> expensive, if it's a one-time trip. >>>> >>>> 73 de Ray >>>> K2ULR >>>> KX3 #211 >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jun 30, 2013, at 7:43 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: >>>> >>>>> I love amateur radio. >>>>> >>>>> However, if I was living 200 miles from the nearest real town, I'd >>>>> invest in a good Personal Locator Beacon (or two) . The kind with a >>>>> built-in GPS. >>>>> >>>>> Sure, it's not "communications" but it's a one-button "come get us, >>>>> we're right here" and the Search and Rescue Satellites are quite good. >>>>> >>>>> I keep mine in the car. >>>>> >>>>> -- Lynn >>>>> >>>>> On 6/30/2013 4:42 AM, KF5TEU wrote: >>>>>> Unfortunately , yes , I do need an amp. . We are going out over 200 >>>>>> mi. from >>>>>> the nearest real town and if we need help then I would really love >>>>>> to get >>>>>> through vs. be falsely proud of my QST skills that gets me nothing >>>>>> but dead >>>>>> air while we hike back with no medical or rescue personnel knowing >>>>>> we are >>>>>> in trouble. 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