Hi Don,

Extremely helpful and encouraging; thanks.  Actually,  I was able to get
the trimmers set pretty well, i think, using a strong signal source.  But I
will make the measurements you recommended.
Right now, I suspect either low VFO output or something is pulling down the
gain of U1.

Les
On Aug 18, 2014 3:00 PM, "Don Wilhelm" <w3...@embarqmail.com> wrote:

> Les,
>
> Yes, the NE612 should show plenty of gain.  When it does not, the usual
> reason is little or no oscillator signal to pin 6.
>
> The Pre-mixer Bandpass filter must be aligned before you will get much of
> a signal at U1 pin 6.
>
> Since you have a 'scope (hopefully with a 10X probe), I will give you an
> alternate method of tuning the Pre-Mixer Bandpass filter.
>
> Since you have the 4 band board, you must follow the proper band order -
> adjust 15 (or 17) meters before adjusting 20 meters, and likewise adjust 30
> meters before 40 meters.
> Make a check before starting - align all the slots in the trimmer
> capacitors parallel with the long edge of the band board.  Then check the
> activity of the crystal for each band - put your probe on band board P1 pin
> 4 and not the amplitude of the signal as you switch through the bands - you
> should have greater than 200 mV peak to peak.  The position of the trimmer
> slots when tuned should be no more than 30 degrees from the center position
> if your toroids are correct.
>
> Then switch to 15 (or 17) meters, and with your probe on P1 pin 6, adjust
> the Pre-Mixer trimmer caps for 15 meters for the maximum amplitude.  Switch
> to 30 meters and do the same for that bands trimmers.  Do the same for 20
> meters and 40 meters.  You should be able to get 200 mV peak to peak there
> on all bands.
> Remember that your 'scope probe will load the Pre-Mix filter a bit, so the
> trimmers to the right of the filter will not be at their optimum setting,
> but it will be enough for receive - you will set the optimum position when
> you adjust for transmit.
>
> You should check to see that the Pre-Mix signal is getting to U1 pin 6 -
> if it is not, suspect the coax link on the bottom of the board between J9
> and J10.
>
> Once you have a good signal at U1 pin 6, you should see that the output at
> pin 4 is much greater than the input at pin 1.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 8/18/2014 5:20 PM, Les Garwood wrote:
>
>> Dear Fellows,
>>
>> I Bought a K1 kit at a ham fest several years ago  (SN 02197) and recently
>> finished the receiver section.  Although audio is strong, as evidenced by
>> the hiss, I have nearly no signal on all 4 bands.
>> I can pump strong rf into it and hear a good side tone/bfo but not
>> strongly. Once, I heard a very faint CW station that was loud on my big
>> rig. But no others.
>> >From the best of my repeated testings, all voltages and resistances
>> provided in the manual match.  I have not built an rf probe for my DMM yet
>> but will.  However, I also used the signal generator kit from Elecraft
>> (the KXGI?).  It is only weakly audible too, and only on the 50 microvolt
>> setting.  The AGC setting has no effect.  The attenuator kills the weak
>> probe signal when on.
>> One post I found after scouring the  Net spoke of a very similar problem
>> that turned out to be a bad 2N7000, in the A Preamp stage,  but I can't
>> see
>> how that would affect signal sensitivity, only audio gain.
>> I also put a scope on pin one and pin 4 of U1, the Receiver Mixer.  The
>> relative voltage was 3x higher on pin 1 than on pin 4.  I would at least
>> have expected gain instead.
>>
>>
>>
>
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