The problem isn't drivers or anything like that, it is attempting
to deal with application software that does not handle the K3's
unique interface.

For example, WSJTX 1.4 when controlling *any rig* via DXLab Suite's
CI-V Commander sets the frequency (VFO A), turns on split, then sets
the transmit frequency (VFO B).  In monitoring TCP commands between
the two applications, I don't even see an attempt to set the mode of
VFO A, much less VFO B - but that's moot because the software turns
on Split before even setting transmit frequency.

If the K3 were to force VFO B to the same frequency and mode as VFO A
when split were enabled (if VFO A is in DATA or on a different band
than VFO B) software like WSJT-X that apparently caters to the lowest
common denominator in rig control interfaces would not be able to send
the K3 off into the weeds.  Remember, software like this generally
does not have user programmable band change/frequency set macros - it
is not a matter of "user responsibility".  This is more a matter of
surviving software with limited sophistication when it comes to rig
control.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2014-10-06 7:58 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
Don't know if "bad drivers" is the right term, possibly "new drivers"
might be better.  I agree however that trying to fool proof can lead to
all sorts of problems.  Although I thought [in the early 80's] that this
cellular telephone business wouldn't catch on [heavy phone-in-a-bag] ...
I am now on my 9th phone, this one a Verizon Samsung Galaxy 5 [I also
told my wife that ATM's would be a loser for banks :-)].

The Galaxy 5 attempts to think for me in many places [spell check and
auto-complete are only two small examples], and, with 29 yr old
grandson's help, I'm slowly turning off the ones that I can.  I'm
totally capable to learn how to do something with it on my own. Likewise
with my KX1, K2, K3, KPA500, KAT500, and P3.

I'm not surprised how picky many have become, the technology we take for
granted today is light-years beyond what we used in the 50's and we're
used to pushing "popcorn" to nuke a bag to perfection [if it's correct
side down].  I *am* glad however that Elecraft monitors this list [and
likely others], and is very careful about implementing a suggestion from
what could be a customer-base of one.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2015 Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
- www.cqp.org

On 10/3/2014 5:06 AM, david Moes wrote:
Im not sure I would like this at all.  sometimes I think that
fool-proofing a rig is the wrong way to go as it take the ownership away
from the operator to pay attention to what they are doing and panders to
the shall I say the bad drivers.

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