After some discussion, I was discouraged from trying a Hi Z or 4
Square.

Based on theoretical considerations, a 4 element square array of
Hi Z elements should be generally equivalent to a SALA of the same
"footprint".  Both are effectively three element endfire arrays.
The SALA will have a bit more high angle response due to the sloping
wires while the Hi Z "4 square" will have a bit poorer broadside
rejection due to the spread "center" element.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2014-11-23 8:52 AM, Dale Parfitt wrote:
Hi Doug,
I have talked with several hams using the K9AY. Apparently it is
somewhat ground dependent, and thus results are all over the board. I
don't have any level ground here in the mountains. After some
discussion, I was discouraged from trying a Hi Z or 4 Square. My
Beverages work wonderfully, but they are in the woods and tree limbs are
constantly bringing them down. I have a rotatable Flag antenna but I
must say, so far the SALA is almost as good as the Beverages and a lot
better than the Flag.

Dale W4OP
----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Turnbull" <[email protected]>
To: "'Dale Parfitt'" <[email protected]>; "'Phil & Debbie'"
<[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 4:53 AM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] RX Antennas


Dale,
   Have you any idea how the Shared Apex Loop Array compares with the
K9AY
or Hi-Z 4 Square RX antennas?

               73 Doug EI2CN

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Dale
Parfitt
Sent: 23 November 2014 00:20
To: Phil & Debbie; [email protected]
Subject: [Elecraft] RX Antennas


While on the subject of RX antennas:

I have been working with my Shared Apex Loop Array= SALA:
http://www.arraysolutions.com/Products/sal_array.htm
I have the 20' version.

While I am not yet finished optimizing, I am quite pleased. The array
appears to work about like my 400' Beverages, but takes up only a 40X40'
square.
On the AM band, I can be aiming NE towards Asheville NC and receiving
that
station. By hitting the flip switch or rotating to SW, an Atlanta station
comes in. F/B is best on low angle arrival stations.  Worth looking into.

Dale W4OP

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