JT65 is indeed audible and has a very distinct sound.
Not sure about the bragging you speak of???

Since Contesting is supposed to teach Amateurs to be better operators (for 
emergencies and the like)I would be led to believe that the contester of all 
people should be one to take the most stringentsteps to operate in a manner as 
to not cause interference to other operators, would you not agree?
After all in a real emergency you would mot want to be causing interference, 
correct?






      From: Wes (N7WS) <w...@triconet.org>
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 2:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lids running RTTY on the JT65 Frequency
   
I agree with both of you.  If you want to use (and brag about) modes where you 
(your computer) work signals inaudible to human beings then you should not 
complain when those same human beings don't know your computer is using the 
frequency.

Wes  N7WS


On 1/5/2015 12:23 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
> On Mon,1/5/2015 10:54 AM, David Cole wrote:
>> To expect the worldwide Amateur Radio community, to clear out space on
>> every band, for the few hundred JT users, on the off chance someone
>> might be transmitting, is simply insane and selfish.
>
> I've made a lot of QSOs using the WSJT modes, but I wouldn't dream of doing 
> so 
> when a contest is occupying the same space. The same is true of CW or SSB on 
> contesting bands during a contest. We hams have a lot of spectrum, but none 
> of 
> us owns any frequency, either individually or as a group. Contest organizers 
> intentionally avoid the WARC bands, and RTTY contesting intentionally avoids 
> 160M. Someone who wants to work JT65 or PSK31 on HF during a RTTY contest can 
> QSY to 160M, 30M, 17M, or 12M. So can CW operators. At least one of these 
> bands will usually be open enough to have fun.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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