Yes Joe, it has happened on my old Toshiba with Windows Vista laptop running N1MM by itself. I don't run NaP3 currently on the shack PC on which I run LP-Bridge. There, I usually have Chrome open as well. The anomaly occurred once during this week's Phone Fray during which I also had an instance of IE open. On that computer, CPU cycles are not an issue.
This PC runs on Windows XP, soon to be replaced with a "modern" Dell and Windows 8.1. For communications with the K3, I run N1MM+ through LP-Bridge via an on-board dual Serial port board. I don't run LP-Bridge on my mobile/portable laptop. I tried it once, but it doesn't have sufficient horsepower. With that computer I use a USB to dual serial port adapter for K3 communications. I have observed the anomaly on both computers although it rarely occurs on either. I'll put together a more concise description for the N1MM+ reflector later today. Both computers have anti-virus and firewall programs running simultaneously. In their current configurations, neither has issues with CPU cycles during contesting. I use Startup Delayer to manage what and when programs come up on boot to help manage CPU use. That comes in handy during the rare occurrence when a re-boot is necessary during a contest (always be prepared). I also run the VE7CC CC cluster client when the contest allows and I choose to enter in the assisted class. Again, the problem has occurred both with VE7CC on and off. Let me add my thanks to all who have responded to my question! 73, Bill, K8TE From: Joe Subich, W4TV-4 [via Elecraft] [mailto:ml-node+s365791n7607374...@n2.nabble.com] Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 6:52 AM To: K8TE <billama...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Mic gain goes to zero using N1MM > In my shack I use LP-Bridge to provide virtual serial ports, > including one to the K3. Does the problem occur if LP-Bridge is not running? LP-Bridge proxies commands and answers polling from its own "virtual K3". Both are capable of causing abnormal operation, particularly with N1MM Logger+ and another program such as NaP3 polling at maximum data rates. In addition to N1MMLogger+ what other applications are running when this problem occurs? 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 9/9/2015 11:38 PM, K8TE wrote: > Bill, > > > > Memory macros-nope. > > > > All the N1MM macros are the "standard" button pushes for the DVK messages. > A raspberry Pi may be in the future for my station control now that an > inexpensive touchscreen is available. But I will stick with N1MM+-K3 > interface for now. In my shack I use LP-Bridge to provide virtual serial > ports, including one to the K3. However, this anomaly has appeared when > using my old Vista laptop with both N1MM Legacy and Plus. > > > > A passive logger could possibly indicate the anomaly's source. Any suggests > for a software logger? > > > > Consider that some other command could also be mangled into MG 0. The > mangling can occur anywhere in the command. > > > > What would be useful here is a passive logger for the RS-232 connection. It > would simply monitor the connection and log everything sent over it. It > sounds like a Raspberry Pi application to me, but I like to play software > that is near the hardware level. You could also do it with an Arduino, which > gets rid of the OS, but also makes display output harder. YMMV. > > > > 73 Bill AE6JV > > > > Guy, > > > > I don't believe I've indicated this is an analog problem. It's most > obviously a software/firmware problem. There is no "MG" command in the N1MM > DVK macros: > > > > CATA1ASC SWT21; > > CATA1ASC SWT31; > > CATA1ASC SWT35; > > CATA1ASC SWT39; > > > > The only commonality between occurrences is N1MM (various versions) and a > pair of K3's with various firmware versions. There are no common cables, > USB hubs, serial cards, computers, etc. That is not to say that some errant > event occurs on rare occasions. It is interesting to not nothing else goes > astray on the K3 when using N1MM. > > > > Since the anomaly occurred with a K3, and another K3 owner had a similar > issue this year, I posted here first. Next I'll give it a try on the N1MM+ > e-mail group. I'm watching an episode of Sherlock Holmes on PBS as I type > this message-what an appropriate coincidence, or is it? > > > > 73, Bill, K8TE > > > > Since the mic gain, displayed in a digit format, is reported as > literally going to the digit zero, we must remember that everything > inside a dotted line within the K3 is entirely SDR. We must carefully > avoid our decades-ground-in tendency to think of troubles in our > familiar and comfortable analog fashion. > > > > From: Iain MacDonnell - N6ML-2 [via Elecraft] > [mailto:[hidden email]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 6:38 PM > To: K8TE <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: Mic gain goes to zero using N1MM > > > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 6:07 AM, K8TE <[hidden email]> wrote: >> I have experienced this same problem over numerous N1MM versions (legacy > and >> Plus). It is very intermittent and I'm unable to identify a specific >> command or cause. It's happened to me on both my shack and portable >> computers. This symptom does not show up with my daily logger (N3FJP > ACLog) >> but it has occurred with both of my K3's. >> >> I use the "typical" K3 commands for either keying DVK memories or audio > from >> my computers. 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