Drifting back to the technicalities of flowing electrons: Nine electric cars operated on the streets of Paris, France between 1835 and 1839. The biggest problem with them was the inefficiency of the electric batteries - likely a variation of Volta cells. The biggest problem with current electric vehicles (cars, golf carts, etc.) is....?
Common batteries of today have: Cell Voltage Specific Energy of MJ/kg Ni Cd 1.2 0.14 Lead - Acid 2.1 0.14 NiMH 1.2 0.36 Li Ion 3.6 0.46 Interesting things can be accomplished by arranging cells either in series, parallel, or combination. To use these cells to perform work we need to remember Amps * Volts = Watts for Simon Watt of steam engine fame. We also need to remember Entropy Theory - energy goes from highly organized state to disorganized state. A lump of coal is relatively organized state and carbon dioxide gas is relatively disorganized state after combustion of coal. We can in a small, localized area (neighborhood) concentrate energy, for example re-charging a battery; by increasing the entropy, disorganization of the energy in the universe by generating electricity - nuclear, coal fired, natural gas fired, solar, wind powered steam generator powered electric plant. In all of these we have mostly waste heat, line losses, circuit losses, etc. to charge/recharge batteries, followed by waste heat, line losses, etc. to put the stored energy to work. After which we repeat the process to recharge the batteries. Am I an advocate of going back to hunter/gatherer life style? No Am I saving up for a KX3 with match box and battery pack? Yes Any unglazed eyes left? 73 Lee N0RRL On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 10:13 PM, Scott Manthe <scott.man...@gmail.com> wrote: > This is quickly becoming unbearable. If you guys want to have a blue state > vs. red state debate, do it somewhere else. Taxpayer pay for lots of things > that not everyone is happy about, so it's probably best if this thread is > dialed back now. > > Scott N9AA > > > > On 10/6/15 11:02 PM, Wes (N7WS) wrote: > >> Be sure and pen a little thank you note to the taxpayers that help you >> out with your "free" fuel :-) >> >> >> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hy-musk-subsidies-20150531-story.html#page=1 >> >> On 10/6/2015 7:26 PM, Barry wrote: >> >>> >>> Wes - If I wanted to brag, I would have driven it to Dayton, then told >>> everyone how I drove 1500 miles and "fuel" was free :-) >>> >>> >>> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ldormis...@gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com