Wayne,

Many thanks for the comprehensive reply.

Next time I encounter the static rain/snow that completely overwhelmed the KX3 
noise blanker, I will make a short wide band RF recording from the SDR and can 
send you a link to the file which may help with developing other DSP noise 
blanking algorithms.

I do agree the existing KX3 noise blanker does a great job on other types of 
pulse noises, and doesn't suffer much when used in the presence of other strong 
signals on the band. Much much better in that respect than my previous 
transceivers.

For now I am happy to use the KX3 in tandem with the wide band SDR when I need 
to blank out the rain static on 144 MHz which happens from time to time.

73 from David GM4JJJ

> On 11 Dec 2015, at 15:48, Wayne Burdick <n...@elecraft.com> wrote:
> 
> David,
> 
> The KX3's noise blanker is implemented entirely within its DSP. Ahead of the 
> DSP are the mixer and its duplexer, which have a finite bandwidth, and 
> possibly the roofing filters, which have much narrower bandwidths. Because of 
> this, there's no way for the DSP to gain access to wideband data for blanking 
> purposes. 
> 
> While this does reduced effectiveness on some types of noise, the blanker 
> still works well on most. I use it every day at my QTH on noise ranging from 
> telephone-pole ESD to appliances and computer peripherals. And because the 
> blanker is strictly operating within a narrow bandwidth, it cannot easily be 
> "pumped" by signals well outside the IF passband.
> 
> The KX3's narrowband filtering also gives it a big advantage in blocking 
> dynamic range compared to other SDRs that have nearly unlimited input 
> bandwidth. For example, Sherwood measured the KX3's BDR at 138 dB, compared 
> to something in the low to mid 120's for "pure" SDRs. The KX3 is also fifth 
> on Sherwood's list for 2-kHz IMDDR3, again because of the narrow roofing 
> filter.
> 
> Since the DSP controls blanking, it may be possible to implement additional 
> noise blanking algorithms in the future. That is definitely on our list. If 
> you send us a detailed description of the types of noise you encounter, we 
> could try to duplicate them in the lab during this effort.
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 3:59 AM, David Anderson <gm4...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> Still interested in any comments about how the KX3 noise blanker is 
>> implemented, and if it could be improved to make it as effective as the wide 
>> band RF blanker in HDSDR.
>> 
>> I now have the SDRPlay tracking the KX3 VFO so that in the event of static 
>> rain QRN I can switch to the SDRPlay for good copy when the KX3 is useless.
>> 
>> 73 from David GM4JJJ
> 
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