Congratulations on all points. Bob, K4TAX
Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 9, 2016, at 9:57 AM, Clay Autery <caut...@montac.com> wrote: > > As of sometime yesterday, 02/08/2016, I was granted my Amateur Radio > License with General privileges. > > Thank you to everyone who had a hand in making this possible. I am > quite happy and yes, a little proud, too. > > In just a few hours, I will take possession of my Elecraft K3s and P3 > components. > I have two super selfless, super-experienced, super-patient operators > who've taken an interest in me. > And I have TWO local clubs available to me from whose members I can > learn and through which I can contribute to the hobby and my community. > > My cup truly runneth over... Thank you, Lord! > > 73, > Clay, KG5LKV > >> On 2/9/2016 9:06 AM, Robert Nobis wrote: >> Hi Bob McGraw, >> >> I agree, except on one point: I’s say 90%, rather than 75%, of the stuff we >> use and methods employed would put most of the station stuff in the trash. >> >> 73, >> >> >> Bob Nobis - N7RJN >> n7...@nobis.net >> >> >>> On Feb 9, 2016, at 08:01, Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcg...@blomand.net> wrote: >>> >>> I'm one of the other Bob's or Robert's........ >>> >>> Since the assembly of coax wound around a toroid doughnut style bobbin is >>> typically not exposed to vibration, such as might exist in an airplane, >>> boat or space vehicle, the use of a solid conductor coax such as RG-303 >>> would not seem to be of concern. The more important point and my >>> experience and as related by others, the use of coax which has foam >>> dielectric in a tight radius bend has been proven or shown to be >>> problematic. As to if the manufactures bending radius dimension is being >>> violated, I find to be of little concern. >>> >>> After all, as a rule, hams are noted for pushing things to the limit and >>> then some and getting buy with it. If hams choose to "stick to the rules >>> 100% in all aspects of their stations"............I'd say 75% of the stuff >>> we use and methods employed would put most of the station stuff in the >>> trash. >>> >>> 73 >>> Bob, K4TAX >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 2/9/2016 8:45 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: >>>> Hi Bob, et al, >>>> >>>> Thank you all for your careful attention. >>>> >>>> I read it wrong, as several have pointed out overnight. I transposed that >>>> to a percentage in my memory after reading it. One of the reasons for >>>> referring people to the original material in these cases. Someone will get >>>> it right. >>>> >>>> That makes it two and a half hairs :>) Doesn't appear to change the >>>> argument. To me anyway the method is still a crude measurement instead of >>>> watching a wide frequency scan while bending the cable along with other >>>> performance specific measurements. >>>> >>>> I still would not use the solid center conductor versions (RG142/303) on a >>>> winding. >>>> >>>> 73, Guy K2AV >>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, February 9, 2016, Robert Nobis <n7...@nobis.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Guy, >>>>> >>>>> I am not sure how you arrived at the “2/1000 of an inch” figure from the >>>>> ANSI spec? The spec actually says “A change in ovality from a given >>>>> sample’s initial measured value of 0.010 inches or more (> 0.010) >>>>> represents the point of non-acceptable bending performance.” >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 73, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Bob Nobis - N7RJN >>>>> n7...@nobis.net <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','n7...@nobis.net');> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 8, 2016, at 18:01, Guy Olinger K2AV <k2av....@gmail.com >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','k2av....@gmail.com');>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I also suggest that everyone carefully study the ANSI standard until it is >>>>> clear what they are doing mechanically and see what they are actually >>>>> measuring: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.scte.org/documents/pdf/standards/ANSI_SCTE%2039%202007.pdf >>>>> >>>>> The method of measuring is in section 4. They are looking for a limit of >>>>> 1% surface deformity when bending. >>>>> >>>>> In the case of RG400 with .195 inch OD, that would be 2/1000 of an inch >>>>> (yes, that's three zeros, two one thousandths of an inch) bending >>>>> deformity >>>>> at the surface of the teflon jacket, or half the thickness of an average >>>>> human hair. >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to n7...@nobis.net >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to caut...@montac.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rmcg...@blomand.net ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
