Well said Al,
It seems to me that the list gets especially weird when the bands are bad!
At any rate, a lot of the problems would be solved if people would follow
your advice to wait overnight and also, as part of that process, re-read
the OP and be sure you understand the question.
Rick
K6LE
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Al Lorona <alor...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> There's a lot of tension on the list right now. Can we all just step back
> for a second?
>
>
> This list, at times, can be downright infuriating to those of us who ask a
> question in good faith, only to have the thread go off the rails in a
> matter of minutes. I've been victimized countless times. When it happens I
> say to myself, "Well, there goes any hope of getting an answer to my
> question."
>
> This list is no different than any list -- you have your Curmudgeons, your
> Know-it-Alls, the Complainers, the Alligators, etc., etc.-- and this tends
> to make people gun-shy or at least very tentative about posting. I can't
> blame them.
>
> Maybe we need to view each post primarily as a *request for help with a
> specific problem*, and not really as an invitation to expound, discuss,
> and bloviate. Simply this: Let's make sure the Original Poster always gets
> our best in the most direct and expedient manner.
>
> There are a handful of guys who regularly stick to this rule and my hat's
> off to them for the dozens of times they've patiently come through for me.
> I stick around here mainly to pay back by helping others when I can.
>
> Replying off-list is fine. Certainly we're not losing any learning
> opportunities if we choose to do this for the common questions ("What's the
> best pair of gym shoes to wear while using my K3?") and I've had some of my
> best technical exchanges off-list, which I'm sure is true of a lot of us.
>
> If you don't get a satisfactory answer here probably the best thing is to
> then go contact Elecraft support privately. Ultimately, this list doesn't
> replace Support.
>
>
> One more thing, and this is directed to the Original Posters out there:
> There is nothing in the Elecraft list guidelines that says you *must* post
> the resolution of a problem to the list, but common courtesy probably
> dictates that you do so. A single wrap-up message by the original poster
> would seem sufficient: "My problem was caused by two mourning doves that
> nested in my balun enclosure."
>
> I was left hanging in the past month by two baffling but fascinating
> problems that I fear we'll never understand... Whatever happened to that K3
> that was hearing broadcast stations by E.S.P.? Was that Wayne's new psychic
> firmware??
>
> Self-moderation is definitely part of the solution. Here are two
> guidelines that if followed diligently could benefit us all:
>
>
> 1. If your response contains the sentiments, "Me too," or, "Why do you
> want to do that?" it probably isn't worth sending. Or maybe should be sent
> off-list.
>
> 2. Delay all responses overnight. If the next morning your response still
> seems needed, go ahead and send it.
>
> Finally I would like to add that, if there's a thread not to your liking,
> kindly spend the few seconds deleting it rather than adding yet another
> post to an already long thread complaining that the thread is getting too
> long or too off-topic. It's kinda like yelling, "Quiet!" in a noisy
> theater-- it doesn't accomplish anything, and it just makes the problem
> worse.
>
> This is all personal opinion and I welcome Elecraft telling me I'm full of
> beans as they see fit. I'll even post a resolution message reporting how
> many people told me, off-list, to go take a flying leap of a galloping
> goose.
>
>
> Al W6LX
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