Egzactly Walter... that's the antenna arrangement I was thinking of back before 
DX on the 
"short waves" was discovered!

Thanks, 


73, Ron AC7AC

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Walter 
Underwood
Sent: Friday, August 5, 2016 5:23 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ½ λ dipoles

Some of the early “clothesline” antennas were a large capacity hat on a 
vertical. If the antenna has one vertical wire connected to all of the top 
wires, it is probably a capacity-loaded vertical. This Wikimedia image shows a 
top-loaded vertical.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Amateur_radio_T_antenna_1912.png 
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Amateur_radio_T_antenna_1912.png>

With longwave communication, a resonant antenna was not practical for most 
hams, whether horizontal or vertical. I certainly don’t have room for a 
half-wave for the 600 meter band.

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

> On Aug 5, 2016, at 4:53 PM, Don Wilhelm <donw...@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Charlie,
> 
> A bit of history ---
> 
> Most of those ham antennas that used parallel wires were folded dipole 
> antennas - yes they were mostly 1/2 wavelength long.  The feedpoint impedance 
> for that antenna is 300 ohms.  Add a 3rd wire or a 4th and the impedance 
> increases.  So to my mind, that was an attempt to match the feedline to the 
> antenna which in early days was open wire line which for normal spacing has a 
> characteristic impedance near 600 ohms.
> By the time I became a ham, TV twinlead was common with a characteristic 
> impedance of 300 ohms.  Many ham antennas were created using that twinlead.  
> A folded dipole was made from the twinlead and fed in the center with 
> additional twinlead serving as the feedline.
> 
> With the migration to coax feedlines, those older techniques have faded from 
> memory, but those antenna *did* work just fine although many hams did not 
> really understand why.
> 
> At that time we had PA tank circuits with swinging link coils and could match 
> most any impedance.  The tuning sequence was to start with the link lightly 
> coupled to the PA inductor and then to "dip the plate" to resonance - then 
> slowly increase the coupling between the PA inductor and the antenna link to 
> increase the PA current.  That was done in an iterative manner until the 
> plate current was at the desired point.
> That process could match most any load that the antenna and feedline might 
> present to the transmitter.
> 
> Then came television.  Many ham transmitters were interfering with TV 
> reception, so transmitters became shielded devices, and the shift to coax 
> rather than open transmitters with the older parallel feedline connection 
> direct to the antenna slowly became a product of the past.  Swinging links 
> and plug in coils inside a shielded enclosure were possible, but a PITA.
> So the advent of the Pi-Network in ham transmitters was born.  It allowed 
> band switching and could match a reasonable range of antenna impedance.  The 
> shielded coax feedlines provided the chassis shield to be extended all the 
> way to the antenna feedpoint (or so the story goes, but that is not entirely 
> true).
> 
> The bottom line of what I am trying to communicate is that much of ham radio 
> antennas, transmission lines and transmitter construction changed drastically 
> in the 1950s with the advent of television and that was done primarily to 
> reduce ham interference to TV viewing (TVI).
> As an example of that effort, my first novice transmitter which I built from 
> a design in a 1955 ARRL Handbook was in a completely shielded enclosure and 
> used shielded wiring throughout with bypass capacitors at each end of the 
> shield wire.  That included all the wiring, filaments and DC power circuits 
> and anything else.  If you find a 1955 ARRL handbook it was the 75 watt 
> transmitter with a 5763 crystal oscillator and 6146 final included in that 
> book. Nostalgia urges me to again build that transmitter, but practical sense 
> says that it would be prohibitively expensive these days and some components 
> are no longer available.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 8/5/2016 6:41 PM, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote:
>> I'm curious as to when the concept of a ½ λ dipole became the norm?
>> 
>> In other words, the idea of the current distribution as exists on a dipole.
>> 
>> Early pictures of typical ham antennas looked more like a set of 
>> parallel clothesline wires.
>> 
>> What I gather from reading early articles,  it seemed that the more 
>> wire you had in the air, the better it would "capture" (and radiate) the 
>> signals.
>> 
>> Feel free to reply directly if you don't want to clutter the forum.
>> 
>> (k3ich at arrl dot net)
>> 
>> 
> 
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