I may be seriously wrong, but shorter than 1/4 wave ground mounted radials are probably affected by the same ground tuning effects that allow a Beverage on the Ground antenna to be considerably shorter than one mounted above the ground. If this is really what is going on, then a bit longer than 1/8 wave should be about right for radials on/under the ground.

73 Bill AE6JV

On 12/29/16 at 9:05 AM, donw...@embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) wrote:

With buried radials, they do not have to be 1/4 wave long, and a single one will probably not make much difference over your ground rod. What you want to accomplish is a "ground screen", which means many short (about 1/8 wavelength) close to the base of the radiator and a few extending out further (to 1/4 or 1/2 wavelength).

Ground conductivity plays a great part in buried radials, and what you are trying to accomplish is to increase the ground conductivity in the area at the base of the antenna.

If you were instead using elevated radials, they would have to be resonant - think of the various "ground plane" antennas that have been published - 1/4 wave radiator plus 2 or 4 1/4 wave radials. Buried radials do not have to be resonant, elevated radials must be resonant. The ground effects will alter the resonance of buried radials while radials in the air are a part of the total antenna resonance.
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